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Fumesucker

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8. If you *knew* a tornado was coming, would you not try to warn your neighbors?

Tue Jan 21, 2014, 01:52 PM

Jan 2014

Revealed truth is the most perfect truth of all, the truthiest truth you might say.

Do you not base your support or lack of support for certain governmental policies on your understanding of ethics?

This is an ethical matter for these people, they honestly believe they are saving souls by undermining Obamacare, they are genuinely terrified of the results of not acting.

How much more ethical can you get than trying to save your neighbor from eternal torment at the hands of evil incarnate?

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Pastor tells Fox News: Obama�s getting us ready to embrace the anti-Christ [View all] DonViejo Jan 2014 OP

Yeah, that's the ticket. Obama is like John the Baptist, but for Satan. cbayer Jan 2014 #1

Well, unless you can prove him wrong, you shouldn't make any kind of judgment here. trotsky Jan 2014 #2

Hmm..so you dismiss the existence of the anti-Christ skepticscott Jan 2014 #3

Some people, a lot in fact, sincerely believe this to be revealed truth Fumesucker Jan 2014 #5

It has been revealed to them that Obamacare is a sign cbayer Jan 2014 #6

If you were content with leaving things at that, there wouldn't be a problem. trotsky Jan 2014 #7

If you *knew* a tornado was coming, would you not try to warn your neighbors? Fumesucker Jan 2014 #8

Yes, I would. cbayer Jan 2014 #9

But cbayer, you've already raised the bar higher than that. trotsky Jan 2014 #10

I've thought some more, and your analogy can even be kicked up a notch or two. trotsky Jan 2014 #13

I think she has you on ignore and I would agree ... MindMover Jan 2014 #27

Very few people skepticscott Jan 2014 #32

Naw, she doesn't have me on ignore. trotsky Jan 2014 #33

yes but you kidnap children! Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #68

Well at least I didn't reveal our secret that after kidnapping... trotsky Jan 2014 #69

Strawman .... MindMover Jan 2014 #74

So your answer is more personal attacks. trotsky Jan 2014 #80

Your question is a strawman and that is my answer ... MindMover Jan 2014 #97

An answer isn't a personal attack, no. trotsky Jan 2014 #99

In asking a strawman question ... "If I only had a brain.." MindMover Jan 2014 #102

Nice try, but fail. trotsky Jan 2014 #108

You first ... remove your strawman fallacies ... and I will remove my image ... MindMover Jan 2014 #117

Thank you for copying the same definition I did, and thus proving me right. trotsky Jan 2014 #121

Of course you are right, even though the dictionary does not have the word mistaken ... MindMover Jan 2014 #127

Ok, it appears we are done. trotsky Jan 2014 #138

Oh and FYI... trotsky Jan 2014 #140

Keep on looking for a dictionary that has the word mistaken as a synonym ... MindMover Jan 2014 #145

OK, I see now that you don't even care about what was posted right in front of you. trotsky Jan 2014 #146

But, to be "fair" Goblinmonger Jan 2014 #147

LOL trotsky Jan 2014 #148

Dictionary ... DICTIONARY ... Dictionary ... DICTIONARY ... MindMover Jan 2014 #149

LMFAO! trotsky Jan 2014 #150

I'm not CBayer Dorian Gray Jan 2014 #152

Thanks for that. trotsky Jan 2014 #153

I use the same scripture and they are not reading it right. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #15

What did he mean by this? edhopper Jan 2014 #18

When he said "all these things" skepticscott Jan 2014 #19

Lol that is a question ask for 2000 years. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #36

I didn't realize Jesus could be wrong edhopper Jan 2014 #39

Jesus said he did not know but he wanted people to be ready for the end. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #40

You buy into this edhopper Jan 2014 #41

It is not necessarily the end of the Earth. More like the end of humanity. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #42

I guess it is something edhopper Jan 2014 #43

I doubt it's coming anytime soon. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #44

But you don't know edhopper Jan 2014 #45

I believe Jesus will come back again someday to bring a new order. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #47

Okay edhopper Jan 2014 #49

Our galaxy collides with Andromeda Galaxy, well before that Brettongarcia Jan 2014 #46

Yes edhopper Jan 2014 #48

Not sure NASA is right here; other collisions between galaxies don't look so good Brettongarcia Jan 2014 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author Brettongarcia Jan 2014 #52

Maybe, but I'll go with NASA's thoughts on this right now. :) edhopper Jan 2014 #56

They look crazy but they really don't affect individual stars or their planetary systems much. trotsky Jan 2014 #58

You "know" this, huh? trotsky Jan 2014 #34

Jesus very clearly said only the father knew when the end was coming. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #37

Very clearly, huh? trotsky Jan 2014 #55

here hrmjustin Jan 2014 #57

Ah, as I thought. trotsky Jan 2014 #60

My theory is if only God knows when the end is coming how can this guy know who is the anti Christ. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #62

Why don't you give him a call and correct him? trotsky Jan 2014 #63

No thanks! hrmjustin Jan 2014 #64

Uh, well no skepticscott Jan 2014 #61

And oddly enough, trotsky Jan 2014 #66

And there in a nutshell skepticscott Jan 2014 #105

The same thing has been said, okasha Jan 2014 #24

Book marking Goblinmonger Jan 2014 #70

Obama is the Anti-Baptist! demwing Jan 2014 #151

According the the article, his poll numbers aren't high enough for him to be the cbayer Jan 2014 #155

The US citizens has already been conditioned for the anti-christ, Texans has had more Thinkingabout Jan 2014 #4

The anti-christ comes from the Gospel of John edhopper Jan 2014 #11

Not in the Gospel of John. Leontius Jan 2014 #16

Thanks for the correction. edhopper Jan 2014 #17

How do you arrive at that ? Leontius Jan 2014 #20

I was speaking about the end time nuts edhopper Jan 2014 #21

Maybe you could point out some of the things that cause you to hold such an opinion of Leontius Jan 2014 #22

I said either allegory or delusion edhopper Jan 2014 #23

Which book are you talking about? okasha Jan 2014 #25

yes edhopper Jan 2014 #28

No, I do not think they're delusional. okasha Jan 2014 #29

By the first listed definition, yeah, it's a synonym for mistaken. trotsky Jan 2014 #35

You are a real flamer ... out to incite riot with your misinformation ... MindMover Jan 2014 #71

Did you look at the antonyms you pasted? Goblinmonger Jan 2014 #72

Now antonyms are synonyms to only you ... wet is the new dry ... MindMover Jan 2014 #75

Obfuscation doesn't work with me. Sorry. Goblinmonger Jan 2014 #82

Look who is calling the kettle black .... MindMover Jan 2014 #88

So, if you know what an antonym is, Goblinmonger Jan 2014 #100

Tension does not mean mistaken nor does it mean delusion ... MindMover Jan 2014 #106

Here is what YOUR source, that you posted, said: Goblinmonger Jan 2014 #132

And as an old mentor of mine used to say ... "when it ain't there just make it up"... MindMover Jan 2014 #134

Please see post #140. n/t trotsky Jan 2014 #141

As I told okasha, trotsky Jan 2014 #83

Please refrain from trying to always be right when you are wrong ... MindMover Jan 2014 #85

If I'm wrong then so is the dictionary. trotsky Jan 2014 #87

Please see post #140. trotsky Jan 2014 #142

A "flamer"? trotsky Jan 2014 #81

Your questions are personal attacks ... and mostly strawmen .... MindMover Jan 2014 #137

It actually has two meanings as has been repeatedly demonstrated to cbayer. edhopper Jan 2014 #38

I'm reading the End as the moment you see the warts in the Bible, or in our religion/heaven Brettongarcia Jan 2014 #50

Ah edhopper Jan 2014 #59

So were you mistaken or delusional okasha Jan 2014 #65

oh you think my innacurate edhopper Jan 2014 #67

Interestingly, the Bible itself says religion was gripped by "a strong delusion" (2 Thess. 2.11) Brettongarcia Jan 2014 #73

You do realize that you are taking this completely out of context, right? cbayer Jan 2014 #76

Nope. Brettongarcia Jan 2014 #86

Exactly, the word is being used to say that delusions will present cbayer Jan 2014 #92

The biblical "delusions" are in our "mind" (2 Thess); and "lead us astray" (Isa. 44.20); God's psych Brettongarcia Jan 2014 #107

It's really difficult to assess this, as the word was apparently not introduced cbayer Jan 2014 #112

No, I don't think you were delusional. okasha Jan 2014 #90

Well in this case I am talking about edhopper Jan 2014 #95

That wasn't my question. okasha Jan 2014 #143

Whether I consider having my facts wrong about which edhopper Jan 2014 #144

And I think you know that I have accepted that and cbayer Jan 2014 #84

Yes edhopper Jan 2014 #93

Thank you. I appreciate that clarification. cbayer Jan 2014 #94

The only way you can maintain that is if you have the ability to read minds. trotsky Jan 2014 #96

You may repeatedly point out the moon is made of cheese... Act_of_Reparation Jan 2014 #79

Nicely done. n/t trotsky Jan 2014 #89

Is the word "mistaken" in the dictionary ... do you see it anywhere ... ????? MindMover Jan 2014 #91

I'm not sure what you are trying to say n/t Act_of_Reparation Jan 2014 #113

post meant for another, sorry ... nt MindMover Jan 2014 #139

Actually I think the second definition to which you refer is even more broad that that. cbayer Jan 2014 #98

But what about a religious believer edhopper Jan 2014 #110

There is clear evidence that the young earth idea is scientifically false. cbayer Jan 2014 #114

There you are wrong, cbayer. trotsky Jan 2014 #118

I think you just have a stricter edhopper Jan 2014 #119

How so? cbayer Jan 2014 #120

Well I would call belief edhopper Jan 2014 #122

I absolutely agree. cbayer Jan 2014 #126

Then i am misreading what you meant by this. edhopper Jan 2014 #131

Ah, sorry. I meant that as specifically referring to whether there is a god or not. cbayer Jan 2014 #133

Okay edhopper Jan 2014 #135

For starters, do you have any evidence that the religious belief... trotsky Jan 2014 #123

I don't think so Act_of_Reparation Jan 2014 #130

You are right and I was not clear. cbayer Jan 2014 #136

You have confused the Gospel of John with The Revelation Leontius Jan 2014 #111

I defer to the more knowledgeable about the source. edhopper Jan 2014 #115

One man's vision is often delusion to others. Leontius Jan 2014 #125

Thanks for that edhopper Jan 2014 #128

It's actually from the Revelation of John. Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #77

That's what I thought edhopper Jan 2014 #78

Then they should cheer him on! silverweb Jan 2014 #12

What a fool! He does noit know his scripture. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #14

I think the Pastor guy ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #26

Pastor of a megachurch and dumb as dirt. Zen Democrat Jan 2014 #30

Worse? He's an MA grad. of Dallas Theological Seminary. One of the worst in the county Brettongarcia Jan 2014 #154

He was also on the Alan Colmes show. 3catwoman3 Jan 2014 #31

But I thought he WAS the antichrist. Rightys can't make up their minds. yourout Jan 2014 #53

So is FOX guilty of "hate speech"? And/or the pastor? Brettongarcia Jan 2014 #54

Holy shit! Are we on FreeRepublic or DU? loudsue Jan 2014 #101

I know! trotsky Jan 2014 #103

Welcome to the religion group. cbayer Jan 2014 #104

Juanita Jean had fun commenting on this story Gothmog Jan 2014 #109

She is hilarious. Thanks for bringing that here. cbayer Jan 2014 #116

She is a friend Gothmog Jan 2014 #124

I am envious! cbayer Jan 2014 #129