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Heddi

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46. What are the standard set of ethics that all Atheists and all YEC's share?

Wed Feb 5, 2014, 06:35 PM

Feb 2014

An atheist can be unethical. A YEC can be very ethically minded.

You're asking silly questions that I think you want to come off as sounding deeply logical and philosophical. They don't though.

There is no standard of ethics that every Atheist holds. There is no standard of ethics that every YEC holds. There are ethical people and there are unethical people. There are ethical actions and there are unethical actions.

No, without knowing ANYTHING about the person that you've assigned as a YEC and the person you've assigned as an Atheist, No, there is NO difference (from an ethical standpoint) from being a YEC and being an Atheist.

Is there any difference, from an ethical standpoint, between being a Saggitarius, or someone born in the year of the Dragon?

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In your opinion, whose interpretation of the Bible is more accurate? [View all] Htom Sirveaux Feb 2014 OP

Well not all religious liberals agree on interpretation but I say liberals over fundamentalists. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #1

Are you asking whose interpretation of mythology is more likely true? immoderate Feb 2014 #2

Not quite. Htom Sirveaux Feb 2014 #3

What is the bible "trying to say?" So why does it say something else? immoderate Feb 2014 #6

The Bible is an inanimate object (or concept, if you prefer) skepticscott Feb 2014 #4

How do you define "accurate" in this case? mindwalker_i Feb 2014 #5

It like translation from a foreign language. Htom Sirveaux Feb 2014 #7

But since this stuff was written 2000 years ago mindwalker_i Feb 2014 #8

In that case, whose interpretation leads to better ethics? n/t Htom Sirveaux Feb 2014 #9

Ethics changes with time and society mindwalker_i Feb 2014 #10

True, but then the question becomes... Htom Sirveaux Feb 2014 #39

that is an entirely different question. Warren Stupidity Feb 2014 #20

So you and the fundamentalists do agree on something. Htom Sirveaux Feb 2014 #38

yes. and honest liberals would also agree. Warren Stupidity Feb 2014 #53

I disagree but we will just have to disagree. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #55

Who are these honest liberals who agree with fundamentalist interpretations? Htom Sirveaux Feb 2014 #56

again we are going to have a definitional problem. Warren Stupidity Feb 2014 #57

You are aware that through Christian history that the bible was not always taken literally on hrmjustin Feb 2014 #58

You are aware that there was is a history of Liberal Christianity, right? Warren Stupidity Feb 2014 #65

Allegory and metaphor was around before the enlightenment. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #67

Sure. Not the point. Warren Stupidity Feb 2014 #68

I would agree for the most part that Rome tow the line for the most part hrmjustin Feb 2014 #69

If they didn't "tow" the line....they found out what was what! PassingFair Feb 2014 #72

The common-sense explanation is that liberals reject literalism Htom Sirveaux Feb 2014 #59

I cannot accept any of these premises Act_of_Reparation Feb 2014 #63

How do we decide who has better ethics? trotsky Feb 2014 #22

An excellent question. Htom Sirveaux Feb 2014 #40

Nope, not that we are aware of. n/t trotsky Feb 2014 #41

So from an ethical stand point, Htom Sirveaux Feb 2014 #43

What are the standard set of ethics that all Atheists and all YEC's share? Heddi Feb 2014 #46

Ok, how about this... Htom Sirveaux Feb 2014 #48

Is there an ethical difference? What does that have to do with YEC vs Atheist? Heddi Feb 2014 #49

What if one holds the religious belief that homosexuality angers god? trotsky Feb 2014 #60

Indeed, but Trotsky, how do you personally tell them they are wrong without an objective Htom Sirveaux Feb 2014 #62

Who has the objective moral standard, Htom? trotsky Feb 2014 #66

The thing of it is... Htom Sirveaux Feb 2014 #74

It's funny, you remind me of someone who used to post here. trotsky Feb 2014 #75

If objective morality doesn't exist, there's no such thing as moral progress. Htom Sirveaux Feb 2014 #76

No such thing as moral progress? How do you know that? trotsky Feb 2014 #79

I think that can be argued Act_of_Reparation Feb 2014 #42

I'd be interested to hear that argument Htom Sirveaux Feb 2014 #45

I have a shoddily recorded 75 minute video >_> Act_of_Reparation Feb 2014 #50

As mentioned above... Meshuga Feb 2014 #24

In the Beginning... DreamGypsy Feb 2014 #11

which edition exactly is the Russian-German one again? MisterP Feb 2014 #36

My own of course. Itchinjim Feb 2014 #12

I'm amazed it took 12 replies to get this answer Fumesucker Feb 2014 #13

This is like asking what is the "accurate" interpretation of Shakespeare's plays, or Moby Dick is... Humanist_Activist Feb 2014 #14

The question is, how do we know what "accuracy" in the bible is? Heddi Feb 2014 #15

What about an option for none of the above? Meshuga Feb 2014 #16

I dunno, which ones are the True Scotsmen? n/t trotsky Feb 2014 #17

That would be the Greater Scythians muriel_volestrangler Feb 2014 #29

Dang, and here I was hoping it was the ones who made their Scotch using real sherry barrels. trotsky Feb 2014 #61

Difficult to answer in a meaningful way. el_bryanto Feb 2014 #18

I think the most accurate is edhopper Feb 2014 #19

agreed..biblical archeology is my hobby reading madrchsod Feb 2014 #78

Mine is. And no one can prove me wrong. cleanhippie Feb 2014 #21

What separates a liberal (modernist) from a fundamentalist is not their conclusions... Act_of_Reparation Feb 2014 #23

Fundamentalists. Iggo Feb 2014 #25

My Own. nt jschurchin Feb 2014 #26

No one. The bible is used by people to support upaloopa Feb 2014 #27

We have a winner! n/t trotsky Feb 2014 #30

'The Bible' is a (slightly variable) collection of books written over several centuries muriel_volestrangler Feb 2014 #28

Selected 'pass'. AtheistCrusader Feb 2014 #31

Which version of the Bible? Half-Century Man Feb 2014 #32

You are not supposed to interpret the bible. So say it the church.......... wandy Feb 2014 #33

As others have said my own. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #34

Define please WovenGems Feb 2014 #35

That's a lot like saying the New Testament doesn't belong to Mormons Act_of_Reparation Feb 2014 #37

Bingo WovenGems Feb 2014 #80

Wow, that's a whole lotta ignorance concentrated in one little post. trotsky Feb 2014 #82

Yes, let's review, indeed Act_of_Reparation Feb 2014 #85

How can you ask "more accurate" when there is no baseline for what "accurate" is? Heddi Feb 2014 #44

Which copy of Harry Potter is more accurate? Beachwood Feb 2014 #47

Hey ... You forgot ... "The POPE" JoePhilly Feb 2014 #51

Nobody knows what the bible is trying to say. bravenak Feb 2014 #52

there are many sections that are rather unambiguous and completely ignored. Warren Stupidity Feb 2014 #54

Neither - it's "trying to say" many contradictory things... eomer Feb 2014 #64

There are a ton of nuances to this question LostOne4Ever Feb 2014 #70

The interpretation of the Bible that has been the standard teaching of the Church Leontius Feb 2014 #71

If it's the interpretation of the Bible skepticscott Feb 2014 #73

Or the one that murdered heretics, imprisoned Galileo, and fought against Warren Stupidity Feb 2014 #81

Neither. 2naSalit Feb 2014 #77

I think this is a classic example of people substituting an easier question. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #83

Accurate? cbayer Feb 2014 #84