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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
33. Relgions aren't convincing.
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 08:42 PM
Feb 2014

Try telling that to the massive number of people who are convinced.

And in many situations, religion provides them with better solutions than their dysfunctional families.

If your hypothesis were true, it would be difficult to account for all the people that find religion, lose religion, change religion or are moving in between their entire life.

It may have been an "unthinking reflex" for you at some point in your life, but you gain nothing by applying that to all the thinking people who have religious beliefs.

And it's highly respectable. You don't embrace it, but that's just you.

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Did you ever notice how the vast majority of religious people ... Scuba Feb 2014 #1
Not me. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #2
"Vast majority" does not equal "everyone". Scuba Feb 2014 #3
I know my friend. my parents are not believers. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #8
When did they become non-believers? n/t trotsky Feb 2014 #9
My father I think in his 20's and my mother when we were young. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #10
But? An Episcopalian/Anglican is just a cross between a Catholic and and unbeliever : ) Brettongarcia Feb 2014 #16
To be honest my switching was less about leaving the RCC and more about hrmjustin Feb 2014 #17
Episcopalianism is more liberal than Catholicism, at least? Brettongarcia Feb 2014 #32
Depends on the Episcopalian. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #34
Shelby Spong seems fairly liberal? Brettongarcia Feb 2014 #38
He is but he is retired. Most Episcopalians are liberal but not all. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #46
For a long time I was attracted to Episcopalianism Brettongarcia Feb 2014 #53
I detest Rowan because he is a coward. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #54
Fair enough Brettongarcia Feb 2014 #55
Did you ever notice how the vast majority of people... cbayer Feb 2014 #4
Similar (same?) dynamic. Scuba Feb 2014 #5
Of course. cbayer Feb 2014 #6
+1 Warren Stupidity Feb 2014 #7
That would be a more interesting question when asked of adults muriel_volestrangler Feb 2014 #12
I don't think the stats would be that different, but I can't find anything cbayer Feb 2014 #13
The point is that most people believe what they've been told to believe, as children muriel_volestrangler Feb 2014 #14
It's more complex than just religious beliefs, though. cbayer Feb 2014 #15
The point is that religions are not really convincing; family habits are more compelling. Brettongarcia Feb 2014 #31
Relgions aren't convincing. cbayer Feb 2014 #33
I think Atheists are tying to tell the religious that what they THINK is respectible, isn't Brettongarcia Feb 2014 #39
This lumping of "atheists" and "the religious" really weakens your argument, imo. cbayer Feb 2014 #45
Disambiguating: the referent of "they" was "the religious." I should I have made that clearer. Brettongarcia Feb 2014 #49
I feel bad for the people that go more conservative. CFLDem Feb 2014 #26
I've met some people who were raised by hippies and absolutely cbayer Feb 2014 #27
To say "most" people follow the religion of their parents, does not mean "all" Brettongarcia Feb 2014 #40
I myself don't really like what fully? cbayer Feb 2014 #47
A few posts ago you felt that the Right, conservatives, had hijacked Christianity in the 80's? Brettongarcia Feb 2014 #50
Did you ever notice how the same people . . . . rug Feb 2014 #11
There are only two possible explanations. One is that it's just a coincidence. But struggle4progress Feb 2014 #18
I think an exorcism is in order! cbayer Feb 2014 #19
Many doctors recommend exorcizing daily struggle4progress Feb 2014 #20
Do you know what happens if you don't pay your exorcist? cbayer Feb 2014 #21
I'd forgotten about that documentary! struggle4progress Feb 2014 #22
Repoman? cbayer Feb 2014 #24
Today most don't believe in "witches." But there HAVE been sly, manipulative people in religion. Brettongarcia Feb 2014 #41
The referenced article in the OP is not flame bait... rexcat Feb 2014 #23
Lack of class? Really. Not flame bait? Really. cbayer Feb 2014 #25
So are your are saying its okay... rexcat Feb 2014 #28
I'm no where near his level. Not even close. cbayer Feb 2014 #29
Part of my response has to do with... rexcat Feb 2014 #35
A fair point. I'll ask him. rug Feb 2014 #36
Ugh, dental work. cbayer Feb 2014 #44
I disagree with you on intent. rug Feb 2014 #30
There are a couple of core questions that Religion has never answered;they need constant repetition Brettongarcia Feb 2014 #42
The Problem of Evil is easy to answer. Fortinbras Armstrong Feb 2014 #56
Have you posted this seeking civil discourse? rug Feb 2014 #37
I say this post makes a cogent, valid, and timeless point. And makes it politely. Brettongarcia Feb 2014 #43
It has nothing to do with the article; it has to do with motive. rug Feb 2014 #48
It's always hard to know/impugn motives. In any case, the post inspired a useful, sane conversation Brettongarcia Feb 2014 #51
did somebody appoint you inquisitor? Warren Stupidity Feb 2014 #57
Did somebody appoint you inquisitor? rug Feb 2014 #59
i was raised catholic. my mom was catholic but DesertFlower Feb 2014 #52
Well, I for one care about your damn religion. cbayer Feb 2014 #58
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