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Igel

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40. Got no soul.

Fri Feb 24, 2012, 09:49 PM

Feb 2012

Or so I've been told. I'm white.

Then again, I honestly believe that I don't have a soul that'll keep on ticking after my heart stops. So baptizing me posthumously has all the effect on me of there being a a wrong note in a performance of Beethoven's 9th symphony played in 1890 in Berlin by some long-disbanded orchestra.

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What makes the Mormons "baptizing" dead people worse than baptizing babies? [View all] ButterflyBlood Feb 2012 OP

You really don't see the difference? Behind the Aegis Feb 2012 #1

Precisely Sherman A1 Feb 2012 #15

Excellent point. cbayer Feb 2012 #25

The Catholic Church holds that baptism is like branding that you can't undo ButterflyBlood Feb 2012 #26

That is not true, and even if it were, it isn't the same. Behind the Aegis Feb 2012 #39

And most other Christians believe.... jberryhill Feb 2012 #33

"Converting" dead Jews is way more disrespectful. Behind the Aegis Feb 2012 #37

They aren't "converting" them jberryhill Feb 2012 #41

You seem to think Jews are supposed to believe their religion is wrong. Behind the Aegis Feb 2012 #49

Just about every danged religion is supposed to believe other religions are wrong jberryhill Feb 2012 #51

No, you don't seem to get the point. Behind the Aegis Feb 2012 #55

"You seem to think it is OK to offend Jews" jberryhill Feb 2012 #60

As I suspected. Behind the Aegis Feb 2012 #61

It's okay jberryhill Feb 2012 #62

And I will pray for you to create less arrogant posts. Behind the Aegis Feb 2012 #63

In that case the post-mortem conversion is ineffective. Deep13 Feb 2012 #67

Who said anything about the effectiveness? The question was about offensiveness. Behind the Aegis Feb 2012 #69

Well, the question is if there is a reason to be offended. Deep13 Feb 2012 #73

This message was self-deleted by its author Behind the Aegis Feb 2012 #74

If people wanted to be baptized Mormon, they would have done it themselves. n/t Firebrand Gary Feb 2012 #2

As I understand it, the practice started for the 'benefit' of those who never had the opportunity. laconicsax Feb 2012 #7

The FSM informs me that all baptized Mormons go straight into the Great Cauldron. Warren Stupidity Feb 2012 #19

But then they died and found out that Mormonism was the correct religion jberryhill Feb 2012 #34

Your last point was a point I made last week. MrSlayer Feb 2012 #3

How is it "arrogant" for a religion to think they know the truth jberryhill Feb 2012 #32

I don't think it is any more arrogant than any religion that says they have cbayer Feb 2012 #36

How is it not? MrSlayer Feb 2012 #45

Okay, so.... jberryhill Feb 2012 #52

I'm not down with any of it. MrSlayer Feb 2012 #56

Someone spoke FOR you. Like it or not, the parents who kept you MADem Feb 2012 #4

Better question is how it's worse than circumcising an infant. laconicsax Feb 2012 #5

An even better question is why you would respond with a red herring and strawman? Behind the Aegis Feb 2012 #9

Not a red herring. laconicsax Feb 2012 #11

Nope. Red herring. Behind the Aegis Feb 2012 #12

You must have a very narrow view of the issue. laconicsax Feb 2012 #42

You are so burdened with logical fallacies as to miss the point. Behind the Aegis Feb 2012 #50

I hate to break it to you... laconicsax Feb 2012 #57

Hate to break it to you.... Behind the Aegis Feb 2012 #59

I never singled out Jews, and readily admitted that non-Jews circumcise. laconicsax Feb 2012 #66

Playing the victim? Whatever. Behind the Aegis Feb 2012 #68

If you have a factual response to what I've posted, by all means let's have it. laconicsax Feb 2012 #70

Red herring distraction is over. I am no longer amused by your hateful propaganda. Behind the Aegis Feb 2012 #71

I'm sorry you regard basic biology as "hateful propaganda." laconicsax Feb 2012 #72

Especially if done while breastfeeding in public at Olive Garden... Silent3 Feb 2012 #20

Worse thing about it is it's done without the permission of the participants. Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #6

Which is different from infant baptism, how? laconicsax Feb 2012 #8

Because parents/legal guardians make all decisions for an infant and/or child. Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #16

The Catholic view that their baptism gives them control for life still makes it offensive to me ButterflyBlood Feb 2012 #28

Swing and a miss. laconicsax Feb 2012 #44

So is Voodoo jberryhill Feb 2012 #35

There is no participant. Igel Feb 2012 #38

There is a long and bloody history of forced baptism/conversion for Jews. TheWraith Feb 2012 #10

"This has happened probably hundreds of times?" Pab Sungenis Feb 2012 #22

As one person said, "We were Ilsa Feb 2012 #13

They're both unethical, IMO Warpy Feb 2012 #14

no difference. it's a silly , ridiculous piece of nonsense. bowens43 Feb 2012 #17

were you baptized without consent of the family? unblock Feb 2012 #18

A better question might be:... MarkCharles Feb 2012 #21

Maybe almost always, but not ALWAYS ButterflyBlood Feb 2012 #24

And there are denominations that don't baptize until you are a teen (I was raised in one). cbayer Feb 2012 #27

Yep, that's the church I go to now ButterflyBlood Feb 2012 #47

Good for you! jeepnstein Feb 2012 #29

Yep I came to that understanding as well ButterflyBlood Feb 2012 #48

So you are OK with them fucking with your soul? WingDinger Feb 2012 #23

Got no soul. Igel Feb 2012 #40

That last sentence is a winner jberryhill Feb 2012 #53

It shows a complete lack of respect for other's beliefs and choices. ChadwickHenryWard Feb 2012 #30

Yes, well, God doesn't respect different religions either jberryhill Feb 2012 #43

Some people think that's an unusual criticism. ChadwickHenryWard Feb 2012 #64

Because they don't *just* baptize the dead -- after the baptism, the person is entered into the LDS iris27 Feb 2012 #31

LDS don't baptize babies ButterflyBlood Feb 2012 #46

Ok, I didn't know they don't do infant baptism. iris27 Feb 2012 #54

The database is supposed to be private though ButterflyBlood Feb 2012 #65

In denominations that baptize infants, the Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2012 #58

Nothing other than the thickness of one's skin. Nihil Feb 2012 #75

Its like claiming an African American ancestor is not African American anymore, but White Vehl Feb 2012 #76