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MellowDem

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42. I was indoctrinated as a child....

Sat Feb 22, 2014, 06:54 PM

Feb 2014

into religion. Hence my first-hand experience and understanding of religion. Religion is not so complex or diverse as to not be understood or criticized as a whole. It has a definition and foundation, one that is harmful in many ways. I know a common apologist argument is to make words and concepts so vague as to be meaningless, and in that way protect them from criticism, but I've always found that to be a substitute for discussion, a dodge.

My view of religion is not dogmatic or rigid. Neither is my view of conservatism. It's an informed opinion. You saying it is doesn't make it so.

Given that religion is based on faith and faith encourages false beliefs, which can be harmful in a lot of ways IMHO, I don't think my dislike of religion is dogmatic or rigid, but based on a good reason. If you find that critique dogmatic or rigid, then look up the definitions of those two words, and explain why.

I'll give you some hints. This is my opinion, based on preferences, so I'm not making a truth claim. And I'm willing to change my opinion if anyone can come up with good reasons.

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Pope Francis calls for flexibility, patience as he opens talks on church teaching [View all] hrmjustin Feb 2014 OP

I smell movement on ..... BIRTH CONTROL....!!!! MADem Feb 2014 #1

I hope so. I hope there is movement on a lot of things. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #2

I think there will be...I think b/c is probably the easiest starter, since it's so damn obvious MADem Feb 2014 #4

God grant him many years. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #5

Actually, I don't think they are. okasha Feb 2014 #7

I doubt they're honest with their "confessah" though. MADem Feb 2014 #8

I think by definition anything you confess is going against Church doctrine goldent Feb 2014 #22

Yeah, but "birth control" is something that folks keep on doing. MADem Feb 2014 #26

That would be a great place to start. cbayer Feb 2014 #3

In other words skepticscott Feb 2014 #6

They did the OOPS we got it wrong before. It just doesn't happen in a hurry. MADem Feb 2014 #9

Funny you use that example. Goblinmonger Feb 2014 #14

In Spain, while people were still cowering in fear about that Friday hotdog, it was possible to MADem Feb 2014 #15

I never heard that we are still not supposed to eat meat on Friday. goldent Feb 2014 #23

I am no expert on the faith, but I have a lot of friends who are and I think it would be news to MADem Feb 2014 #27

Canon Law 1249-53 Goblinmonger Feb 2014 #29

I'm not gonna tell them what to do, but I can promise you this--they don't think that MADem Feb 2014 #30

I don't care what they do. Goblinmonger Feb 2014 #31

This doesn't seem to say what you claim goldent Feb 2014 #34

no Goblinmonger Feb 2014 #36

You just need to read the cannon law very carefully. goldent Feb 2014 #40

And another day passes in silence and Uganda's pogrom catches fire. Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #10

Hey I spoke out against it. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #11

Well then, time to move on to promoting those who created it as great guys. Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #12

Promoting? This is religious news and this is the religion room. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #13

Francis should be speaking out against what is happening in Uganda. Lavishing attention on him Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #16

You do understand that this convocation of the College of Cardinals is about reform. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #17

Here is what the Episcopal Church has said about this situation. kwassa Feb 2014 #35

I, for one, will subscribe to a Uganda room. rug Feb 2014 #18

Do you think my post is promoting the Pope? hrmjustin Feb 2014 #19

No, that statement is complete bullshit. rug Feb 2014 #20

Thanks rug. I always thought I was fair in my praise and criticism. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #21

hrmjustin I think everyone knows you are one of the most goldent Feb 2014 #24

Thanks goldent. I am always hopeful. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #25

I think someone is trying a bit too hard to goad and bait you. MADem Feb 2014 #28

Thanks MADem! hrmjustin Feb 2014 #32

While I would also like to see the pope use his power and position to cbayer Feb 2014 #33

I wonder when they'll just give up the game... MellowDem Feb 2014 #37

Then pray it turns to the left. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #38

Likely you'll be saddened and angry as long as there is disagreement with your opinion of religion. rug Feb 2014 #39

And I'm sick of seeing people whose blinders and apparent childhood indoctrination cbayer Feb 2014 #41

I was indoctrinated as a child.... MellowDem Feb 2014 #42

Your single experience is just that - a single experience. cbayer Feb 2014 #43

I don't have a narrow definition of religion... MellowDem Feb 2014 #44

How can you say that you don't have a narrow definition and that it is as shallow as it gets cbayer Feb 2014 #45

Well, I guess the important thing is that you get to scold MD... trotsky Feb 2014 #46

Something can have a broad definition and be shallow... MellowDem Feb 2014 #47

i've had similar experiences with religion as MelloDem Etc. Brettongarcia Feb 2014 #48