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37. I'm not even going to go whining to the moderators

Reply to Fortinbras Armstrong (Reply #36)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 02:22 PM

Mar 2014

That's your bag, as we've seen.

And you have yet to point to a single post of mine that shows either bigotry or hypocrisy. Calling out bigotry among the religious is not bigotry, except to right wing fundamentalists, and even if it were, I'd still point out sexism and homophobia where it's preached and practiced. And hypocrisy consists in saying one thing and believing or practicing another. You have many examples of me doing that, I suppose?

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Pope Francis appeals for prayers for the Ukraine [View all] hrmjustin Mar 2014 OP

Amen shenmue Mar 2014 #1

Ukraine. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #3

And Scotland! Nt pkdu Mar 2014 #26

Empty platitudes skepticscott Mar 2014 #2

Why am I not surprised that skepticscott interjects an irrelevant and nasty sneer Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #4

The pope likely can't do anything to alleviate the situation skepticscott Mar 2014 #5

In other words, I called it correctly Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #7

Do you think those prayers are ever going to do anything? Goblinmonger Mar 2014 #10

Do you think that the head of a religion does not believe in the efficacy of prayer? Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #11

I'm sorry Goblinmonger Mar 2014 #13

Tell that to all of the children skepticscott Mar 2014 #40

Augustine of Hippo said Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #46

Sounds like Augustine knew that prayers wouldn't do the trick. progressoid Mar 2014 #60

No, he's saying that prayer alone will not do the trick Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #89

Here's how I heard that "joke". progressoid Mar 2014 #94

My version of it had a point relevant to the topic Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #102

While I agree that those parents Dorian Gray Mar 2014 #87

I'm accusing a religious leader of hypocrisy for how he speaks of wealth skepticscott Mar 2014 #12

No, he is not being hypocritical. Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #24

Keep those insults coming, FA. trotsky Mar 2014 #27

Oh, you're doing a fine job all by yourself, trotsky. rug Mar 2014 #28

One of the main things a Christian is obliged to do is tell the truth Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #35

Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #41

Uh, calling people fucking imbeciles is a great way to win people to your cause shenmue Mar 2014 #51

You could learn a little Goblinmonger Mar 2014 #52

Truth is not an insult. Leontius Mar 2014 #42

Speaking of examples of good Christians... trotsky Mar 2014 #45

I dislike him because he champions bigotry skepticscott Mar 2014 #30

The actual hypocrite is you, skepticscott Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #36

I'm not even going to go whining to the moderators skepticscott Mar 2014 #37

I have exactly ONCE complained about a post directed at me. Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #48

What is funny is that EvilAL Mar 2014 #97

While I don't think prayers will hurt, they need a whole lot more than that. cbayer Mar 2014 #6

Calling for prayers is just about all the Pope can do. n/t Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #8

I know and glad to know he is shining some light on it. cbayer Mar 2014 #9

They do. Dorian Gray Mar 2014 #88

A little juxtaposition for your Monday consideration Goblinmonger Mar 2014 #14

You understand that it is a church building? hrmjustin Mar 2014 #15

You're right. His place is pretty austere Goblinmonger Mar 2014 #16

No he does not live there either. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #17

Please, then Goblinmonger Mar 2014 #18

This is the building and I believe this is his rooms now. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #19

Wretched excess! rug Mar 2014 #20

Oh no! He has shiny floors! hrmjustin Mar 2014 #21

! rug Mar 2014 #22

Indoor plumbing even? goldent Mar 2014 #29

And a bed! okasha Mar 2014 #32

OK, fine. Goblinmonger Mar 2014 #23

Um I never said that the RCC has no wealth. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #25

Which is why I accused him skepticscott Mar 2014 #31

As the member of the Jesuits he took a vow of poverty. That means he Cleita Mar 2014 #101

Oh, please. okasha Mar 2014 #33

So we are ignoring Vatican City? Goblinmonger Mar 2014 #34

So you think all of Vatican City okasha Mar 2014 #43

When did I say that? Goblinmonger Mar 2014 #44

See your posts 14 and 16. okasha Mar 2014 #80

You claimed I said the Vatican City was the Pope's personal property Goblinmonger Mar 2014 #90

What do you think "his" and "has" mean, okasha Mar 2014 #98

Is it not his place? Goblinmonger Mar 2014 #99

No, it constitutes but a fraction of the wealth of the Roman Catholic Church... Act_of_Reparation Mar 2014 #49

Best Pope ever yeoman6987 Mar 2014 #86

How is he different from the last pope. Goblinmonger Mar 2014 #91

seems like he's less of an asshole in public, yeoman6987 Mar 2014 #92

I'll give you that. Goblinmonger Mar 2014 #93

Hope that doesn't make it worse. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #38

There is contradictory data about this whole prayer/surgical patient thing, and cbayer Mar 2014 #39

Ukraine would love to know. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #47

Would they? Act_of_Reparation Mar 2014 #50

The church is a big part of that nations life. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #54

No, it isn't Act_of_Reparation Mar 2014 #57

Wow that is news to me. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #58

That may be in large part to an extensive recent history of serious persecution for being religious. cbayer Mar 2014 #59

I don't understand where you're trying to go with this Act_of_Reparation Mar 2014 #61

All I am saying is that it went from a very religious country to a very non-religious cbayer Mar 2014 #62

I would argue that is something of an oversimplification Act_of_Reparation Mar 2014 #67

supprression of christianity stopped almost entirely at the start of WWII. Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #66

Where did you get that? rug Mar 2014 #64

Well, that will make some people feel much better about doing nothing. mr blur Mar 2014 #53

We don't know that he is doing nothing. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #55

The pope shining light on the situation is doing something. cbayer Mar 2014 #56

"asking people to pay attention and to learn more about the situation is certainly a positive thing" trotsky Mar 2014 #63

Just because you don't think prayer does noyhing doesn mean it does nothing. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #65

And just because you think it does something doesn't mean it does, either. n/t trotsky Mar 2014 #70

Fair point but I think it is doing something. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #71

I personally think the diplomacy effort by Secretary Kerry... trotsky Mar 2014 #72

Yes but most of us are not in the position to do that level of work. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #73

Whether they are "positive" is unproven. trotsky Mar 2014 #74

I don't believe it is harmful. And please quoting that study because I don't care what it says. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #75

Yes, I am aware that facts are irrelevant to religious belief. trotsky Mar 2014 #76

That study is no fact and don't put me in the same sentence with them please. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #77

Then don't dismiss evidence so willfully as they do. trotsky Mar 2014 #78

I and other believers will not stop praying for people because if one study. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #79

Nor will Fred Phelps stop hating gays... trotsky Mar 2014 #81

My praying for others is connected to phelps bigotry. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #82

If you reserve the right to reject any evidence that contradicts your beliefs, trotsky Mar 2014 #83

And Jesus wept! hrmjustin Mar 2014 #84

Learning about the situation itself does nothing. rug Mar 2014 #68

In politics, this is called jawboning. okasha Mar 2014 #85

But the pope did it, so it must be bad. cbayer Mar 2014 #95

Oh, of course, that's EXACTLY what others are saying. trotsky Mar 2014 #96

And if the tanks do roll in, okasha Mar 2014 #100

Wow the pope got people talking. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #69