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hrmjustin

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58. Wow that is news to me.

Reply to Act_of_Reparation (Reply #57)

Wed Mar 5, 2014, 04:13 PM

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Pope Francis appeals for prayers for the Ukraine [View all] hrmjustin Mar 2014 OP

Amen shenmue Mar 2014 #1

Ukraine. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #3

And Scotland! Nt pkdu Mar 2014 #26

Empty platitudes skepticscott Mar 2014 #2

Why am I not surprised that skepticscott interjects an irrelevant and nasty sneer Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #4

The pope likely can't do anything to alleviate the situation skepticscott Mar 2014 #5

In other words, I called it correctly Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #7

Do you think those prayers are ever going to do anything? Goblinmonger Mar 2014 #10

Do you think that the head of a religion does not believe in the efficacy of prayer? Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #11

I'm sorry Goblinmonger Mar 2014 #13

Tell that to all of the children skepticscott Mar 2014 #40

Augustine of Hippo said Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #46

Sounds like Augustine knew that prayers wouldn't do the trick. progressoid Mar 2014 #60

No, he's saying that prayer alone will not do the trick Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #89

Here's how I heard that "joke". progressoid Mar 2014 #94

My version of it had a point relevant to the topic Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #102

While I agree that those parents Dorian Gray Mar 2014 #87

I'm accusing a religious leader of hypocrisy for how he speaks of wealth skepticscott Mar 2014 #12

No, he is not being hypocritical. Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #24

Keep those insults coming, FA. trotsky Mar 2014 #27

Oh, you're doing a fine job all by yourself, trotsky. rug Mar 2014 #28

One of the main things a Christian is obliged to do is tell the truth Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #35

Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #41

Uh, calling people fucking imbeciles is a great way to win people to your cause shenmue Mar 2014 #51

You could learn a little Goblinmonger Mar 2014 #52

Truth is not an insult. Leontius Mar 2014 #42

Speaking of examples of good Christians... trotsky Mar 2014 #45

I dislike him because he champions bigotry skepticscott Mar 2014 #30

The actual hypocrite is you, skepticscott Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #36

I'm not even going to go whining to the moderators skepticscott Mar 2014 #37

I have exactly ONCE complained about a post directed at me. Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #48

What is funny is that EvilAL Mar 2014 #97

While I don't think prayers will hurt, they need a whole lot more than that. cbayer Mar 2014 #6

Calling for prayers is just about all the Pope can do. n/t Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #8

I know and glad to know he is shining some light on it. cbayer Mar 2014 #9

They do. Dorian Gray Mar 2014 #88

A little juxtaposition for your Monday consideration Goblinmonger Mar 2014 #14

You understand that it is a church building? hrmjustin Mar 2014 #15

You're right. His place is pretty austere Goblinmonger Mar 2014 #16

No he does not live there either. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #17

Please, then Goblinmonger Mar 2014 #18

This is the building and I believe this is his rooms now. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #19

Wretched excess! rug Mar 2014 #20

Oh no! He has shiny floors! hrmjustin Mar 2014 #21

! rug Mar 2014 #22

Indoor plumbing even? goldent Mar 2014 #29

And a bed! okasha Mar 2014 #32

OK, fine. Goblinmonger Mar 2014 #23

Um I never said that the RCC has no wealth. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #25

Which is why I accused him skepticscott Mar 2014 #31

As the member of the Jesuits he took a vow of poverty. That means he Cleita Mar 2014 #101

Oh, please. okasha Mar 2014 #33

So we are ignoring Vatican City? Goblinmonger Mar 2014 #34

So you think all of Vatican City okasha Mar 2014 #43

When did I say that? Goblinmonger Mar 2014 #44

See your posts 14 and 16. okasha Mar 2014 #80

You claimed I said the Vatican City was the Pope's personal property Goblinmonger Mar 2014 #90

What do you think "his" and "has" mean, okasha Mar 2014 #98

Is it not his place? Goblinmonger Mar 2014 #99

No, it constitutes but a fraction of the wealth of the Roman Catholic Church... Act_of_Reparation Mar 2014 #49

Best Pope ever yeoman6987 Mar 2014 #86

How is he different from the last pope. Goblinmonger Mar 2014 #91

seems like he's less of an asshole in public, yeoman6987 Mar 2014 #92

I'll give you that. Goblinmonger Mar 2014 #93

Hope that doesn't make it worse. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #38

There is contradictory data about this whole prayer/surgical patient thing, and cbayer Mar 2014 #39

Ukraine would love to know. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #47

Would they? Act_of_Reparation Mar 2014 #50

The church is a big part of that nations life. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #54

No, it isn't Act_of_Reparation Mar 2014 #57

Wow that is news to me. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #58

That may be in large part to an extensive recent history of serious persecution for being religious. cbayer Mar 2014 #59

I don't understand where you're trying to go with this Act_of_Reparation Mar 2014 #61

All I am saying is that it went from a very religious country to a very non-religious cbayer Mar 2014 #62

I would argue that is something of an oversimplification Act_of_Reparation Mar 2014 #67

supprression of christianity stopped almost entirely at the start of WWII. Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #66

Where did you get that? rug Mar 2014 #64

Well, that will make some people feel much better about doing nothing. mr blur Mar 2014 #53

We don't know that he is doing nothing. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #55

The pope shining light on the situation is doing something. cbayer Mar 2014 #56

"asking people to pay attention and to learn more about the situation is certainly a positive thing" trotsky Mar 2014 #63

Just because you don't think prayer does noyhing doesn mean it does nothing. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #65

And just because you think it does something doesn't mean it does, either. n/t trotsky Mar 2014 #70

Fair point but I think it is doing something. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #71

I personally think the diplomacy effort by Secretary Kerry... trotsky Mar 2014 #72

Yes but most of us are not in the position to do that level of work. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #73

Whether they are "positive" is unproven. trotsky Mar 2014 #74

I don't believe it is harmful. And please quoting that study because I don't care what it says. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #75

Yes, I am aware that facts are irrelevant to religious belief. trotsky Mar 2014 #76

That study is no fact and don't put me in the same sentence with them please. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #77

Then don't dismiss evidence so willfully as they do. trotsky Mar 2014 #78

I and other believers will not stop praying for people because if one study. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #79

Nor will Fred Phelps stop hating gays... trotsky Mar 2014 #81

My praying for others is connected to phelps bigotry. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #82

If you reserve the right to reject any evidence that contradicts your beliefs, trotsky Mar 2014 #83

And Jesus wept! hrmjustin Mar 2014 #84

Learning about the situation itself does nothing. rug Mar 2014 #68

In politics, this is called jawboning. okasha Mar 2014 #85

But the pope did it, so it must be bad. cbayer Mar 2014 #95

Oh, of course, that's EXACTLY what others are saying. trotsky Mar 2014 #96

And if the tanks do roll in, okasha Mar 2014 #100

Wow the pope got people talking. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #69