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LostOne4Ever

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56. The problem with that

Mon Mar 10, 2014, 12:27 PM

Mar 2014

Is the post you are talking about is a response to the post I alerted on. Again context. The post I alerted on was a response to a calm post with no insult in it. Many jurors will check and see that said poster is replying to that post.

If we were going to run an experiment, a better way to check the hypothesis would be for you to pick a similar thread, lets say the WTC thread and make a post about how that issue will cause atheists to get bad publicity and only further our bad perception and then I would reply:

No the reason is the self avowed leaders of Christianity are dicks

Then have you alert on me and have you post the results to see if I get my first ever hide or not. That way the context is the same.

That said if I saw someone make such a claim I would either alert on it or call them on it depending on the severity. I have done so in the past.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1218&pid=77374
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1218&pid=78420
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1218&pid=84340

But maybe you are right and im being overly sensitive. Im still incensed over the WTC thread (GD version) where the original poster omitted the whole thing about the motives of the AA and their offer to pay and refuses to even acknowledge that aspect of the story.

I think Ill take a short break from DU and work on my Japanese for a day or so. As always, a pleasure talking to you my friend.

さようならそれまで。

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Mother Removes Cross Memorial After Dispute With Atheist Rights Group [View all] rug Mar 2014 OP

yeah, you let one mother grieve and before you know it, theocracy zazen Mar 2014 #1

No, you bow to religious privilege... MellowDem Mar 2014 #15

Great point amuse bouche Mar 2014 #69

I hear what you are saying Dorian Gray Mar 2014 #88

There's some practical reasons to do so.. MellowDem Mar 2014 #97

I guess it's whether we're giving the person special treatment Dorian Gray Mar 2014 #99

Really? Shadowflash Mar 2014 #2

Agreed Stargazer09 Mar 2014 #3

I'm ambivalent.... mike_c Mar 2014 #4

It's on public property... MellowDem Mar 2014 #16

agreed. Cofitachequi Mar 2014 #26

There are many ways to honor the memory of her son. It doesn't have to be a cross No Vested Interest Mar 2014 #5

Wow! hrmjustin Mar 2014 #6

'Wow' indeed amuse bouche Mar 2014 #72

Well we disagree. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #74

Disagree about what? amuse bouche Mar 2014 #75

Magical thinking. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #76

ya..right amuse bouche Mar 2014 #79

As I said we disagree. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #82

hocus pocus Dorian Gray Mar 2014 #89

Too bad amuse bouche Mar 2014 #91

Winning hearts and minds Dorian Gray Mar 2014 #94

Just the truth amuse bouche Mar 2014 #95

Amuse Bouche Dorian Gray Mar 2014 #98

Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #100

"people should seek out actual human beings to converse with" rug Mar 2014 #96

I have no problem with crosses as memorials as long as they are not permanent installations. SecularMotion Mar 2014 #7

roadside memorials WolverineDG Mar 2014 #8

If I remember correctly, okasha Mar 2014 #20

They allow small displays WolverineDG Mar 2014 #21

Wait until a Wiccan puts up a pentacle as a memorial in Texas Fumesucker Mar 2014 #9

Is that a good reason not to do or allow it? Leontius Mar 2014 #12

Just pointing out the hypocrisy of those who want "religious freedom" Fumesucker Mar 2014 #14

Displaying hypocrisy by inventing an imaginary scenario Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #28

yeah, 'cause similar shit never happens.. EvilAL Mar 2014 #84

sheesh ... what nonsense ... Trajan Mar 2014 #104

No, I said, quite simply and clearly Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #109

You said that, but that doesn't make it true Trajan Mar 2014 #110

I am sorry that you are unable to read simple declarative sentences Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #111

Jesus defied gravity a couple of times EvilAL Mar 2014 #112

Are you really that silly Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #113

Are you really that serious EvilAL Mar 2014 #114

Yes, silly you Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #115

Oh ya, miracles. EvilAL Mar 2014 #125

That's the standard atheist comeback Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #129

Atheism always existed, EvilAL Mar 2014 #130

As I have said at least three timese Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #131

I am not saying EvilAL Mar 2014 #133

Ah, you are waffling Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #134

lol. EvilAL Mar 2014 #135

Atheism is not an act of faith. LiberalAndProud Mar 2014 #136

For at least the fourth time Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #137

I understand you, EvilAL Mar 2014 #138

Let me ask you a question. cbayer Mar 2014 #139

Neither one is an act of faith. EvilAL Mar 2014 #140

But that wasn't my question. Do they say the same thing? cbayer Mar 2014 #143

You asked if there was a difference. EvilAL Mar 2014 #147

and the more I think about it EvilAL Mar 2014 #141

But that is the standard definition for atheism cbayer Mar 2014 #144

It's the wording. EvilAL Mar 2014 #146

Isn't it all just silly semantics? cbayer Mar 2014 #148

It is EvilAL Mar 2014 #149

One says I do not believe. One says I believe. Both seem to be about belief in some way. pinto Mar 2014 #142

I also struggle with the current nomenclature. cbayer Mar 2014 #145

However, if made properly, kentauros Mar 2014 #132

After the WTC thread LostOne4Ever Mar 2014 #10

That's always a wise course, particularly when a story concerns religion. rug Mar 2014 #11

Somtimes I think the atheistis have agent provocateurs in their midst goldent Mar 2014 #13

Most times I think apologists for religious privilege... MellowDem Mar 2014 #17

That was my first thought when I saw this. - n/t Jim__ Mar 2014 #18

The American Humanist Association okasha Mar 2014 #19

We're the least trusted group because of religious privilege and ignorance... MellowDem Mar 2014 #22

No the reason is the self avowed leaders of atheisim are dicks. Leontius Mar 2014 #23

Bullshit... MellowDem Mar 2014 #24

You want to know why religious people despise atheists? Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #29

Yes, it's because religious people have massive privilege.... MellowDem Mar 2014 #30

Here's a simple problem with "atheists" that dwell on burning in hell Leontius Mar 2014 #31

We dwell on it LostOne4Ever Mar 2014 #32

lmao!!! bunnies Mar 2014 #60

It is hypocritical Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #50

Yes, I'm sure Catholics skepticscott Mar 2014 #34

You have a knack for getting things wrong. rug Mar 2014 #40

Despise? That's a little extreme. Curmudgeoness Mar 2014 #44

"Despise" was MellowDem's word n/t Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #49

You show, repeatedly, that you have absolutely no idea what bigotry actually is, mr blur Mar 2014 #67

That's the most disenguous pile of horseshit I've seen on DU in a long time EvolveOrConvolve Mar 2014 #33

Too bad the jury wouldnt hide it LostOne4Ever Mar 2014 #35

I am not surprised that it was left standing. cbayer Mar 2014 #38

Just stop it, cbayer�it's really disgusting skepticscott Mar 2014 #47

I try to call them when I see them LostOne4Ever Mar 2014 #51

The issue, though, is how people only see what they want and miss it when the same thing is coming cbayer Mar 2014 #53

The problem with that LostOne4Ever Mar 2014 #56

Ooohhh!! Japanese. I am truly impressed. cbayer Mar 2014 #58

And what about post #37? is that the 2nd biggest pile of horseshit? cbayer Mar 2014 #39

You haven't been posting much in here lately. rug Mar 2014 #41

I'm having some personal issues that take up a lot of the free time I used to spend on DU EvolveOrConvolve Mar 2014 #48

Oh, they pale in comparison to the leaders of religions. Arugula Latte Mar 2014 #37

The only difference is they have much fewer followers. rug Mar 2014 #42

Point taken and I agree. The statement does cut both ways. Leontius Mar 2014 #46

+1 Dawson Leery Mar 2014 #27

Sad story yeoman6987 Mar 2014 #52

Losing a child is the most horrific thing that can happen to a person. cbayer Mar 2014 #55

It was there for two years. Mariana Mar 2014 #25

They would get all apoplectic in Mexico, cbayer Mar 2014 #36

It's the American Humanist Association. I wonder if the Mexican Humanist Association cares. rug Mar 2014 #43

I would bet that they would not. cbayer Mar 2014 #45

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There are places in every city and town Mariana Mar 2014 #57

But they still put them on the roads... TreasonousBastard Mar 2014 #59

I don't mind them being there for a limited period of time. Mariana Mar 2014 #62

Well, few of them are forever. TreasonousBastard Mar 2014 #63

Just anecdote, but here in Mexico there are literally thousands of these on the roads. cbayer Mar 2014 #61

I don't think they do any harm either Mariana Mar 2014 #64

I would be very reluctant to comment on her state of mind and whether she needs cbayer Mar 2014 #65

To the best of my knowledge, okasha Mar 2014 #66

It's probably been done, but they would make a wonderful photo-study. cbayer Mar 2014 #68

I cheer every time amuse bouche Mar 2014 #70

I bet you can't wait for the day when all crosses are removed from veterans' cemeteries. rug Mar 2014 #71

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That day is "every time religious BS is removed from the world." rug Mar 2014 #77

"You really should consider the implications of your snark." amuse bouche Mar 2014 #78

And you have failed to answer the question. rug Mar 2014 #80

No you failed amuse bouche Mar 2014 #81

Uh- huh. Still no answer. rug Mar 2014 #83

No, I just don't get your question amuse bouche Mar 2014 #85

Do you consider the crosses on their graves to be "religious bs" that should be removed? rug Mar 2014 #87

The right thing to do would be to stop wasting our natural resources amuse bouche Mar 2014 #90

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The anonymity of the internet. rug Mar 2014 #106

You may have a point there Starboard Tack Mar 2014 #107

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A thought experiment - an Atheist Mother el_bryanto Mar 2014 #116

What do you mean by "her thoughts about religion"? cbayer Mar 2014 #117

A few points el_bryanto Mar 2014 #118

I'm not sure why religion would need to be mentioned at all in such a memorial. cbayer Mar 2014 #119

This may be part of religious privilege el_bryanto Mar 2014 #120

Sure, everyone knows that it means that a christian died. cbayer Mar 2014 #121

Offensive to you or offensive to a fundamentalist? a tea-partier? el_bryanto Mar 2014 #122

But I don't think we solve that problem by taking down other symbols. cbayer Mar 2014 #123

If she put up a memorial with goldent Mar 2014 #124

I never understood that action of putting a cross where someone died Drale Mar 2014 #126

To make a memorial. I understand your pov but some might feel it helps them. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #128