Religion Doesn’t Require Bigotry, And Don’t Let Anyone Claim Otherwise

[AtheistCrusader]

44. A metaphor for... a third party that injures you and you should love it anyway?

"The fact that you don't understand people that interpret things differently than you is an issue for you, I guess."

No, I think there's genuinely something problematic about someone that looks at a murder scene and the only thing that occurs to them is that the blood of the victim is a lovely shade of red, and isn't that a wonderful thing to have been able to see. Because that's what Job illustrates. Torture and murder, and one of the victims still loving the murderer, and then being rewarded for it. I have a problem with people who refuse to see torture and murder for what it is. Whistling 'always look on the bright side of your life' when standing knee deep in blood doesn't imply anything about ME. I call blood, blood. Murder is murder. Torture is torture. Not just easily ignored bookends around a lovely life lesson.


"You obviously see really horrific things where others see stories that inspire them or make them reflect in a way that they hadn't before."

No, I see murder where the story describes murder. Period. I see torture where the story describes torture. I see horrific things where horrific things are described. Do you deny that it describes torture and murder? That murder and torture are objectively wrong? I can point it out for you if you need. Do you deny that Job profits from his Stockholm-like devotion to the torturer and murderer? The story actually alludes to a concept by a man I greatly respect, Frederick Douglass;

"The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress. Find out just what people will submit to, and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both."

Except of course, 'god' is supposedly the good guy in the story. You know. The murderer. The torturer. The genocidal maniac. The tyrant.


"Do you really want everyone to have exactly the same experiences as you?" No, but there are some very objective conditions, like murder, that I'm surprised you seem to think there's so very much wiggle room on, for extracting truth, beauty and justice.


Ecclesiastes is a nihilist fallacy from stem to stern. Also suggests that god steals wealth from non-believers, to give to believers, and that's just fine and dandy.

"The sleep of a laborer is sweet, whether they eat little or much, but as for the rich, their abundance permits them no sleep."

Hahaha yeah, and if I was a rich man, that's the bullshit I'd be telling poor people too. Oh yeah, nah, you guys don't want to do this, woe is me, as I sleep in my cotton jacquard, 280 TC sheets, man. Full belly. Entertainment of any sort on demand. Sucks to be me.

That's exactly the line of bullshit a 1%'er will feed you. And it ends on a high note of 'all you humans suck'.

Great choice there. Real counterpoint to Job. 1:2 and 1:10 can be answered with "nanos gigantum humeris insidentes" and "germ theory" respectively.