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AtheistCrusader

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46. What about loving people who intentionally hurt you just to see how much they can hurt you before

Mon Mar 10, 2014, 01:56 PM

Mar 2014

you break?

Because that's the scope of Job; deliberate torture to see if he fails.

I'd be worried, and seeking professional help if my kids were deliberately injuring me to the limits of destruction on our relationship.

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Religion Doesn�t Require Bigotry, And Don�t Let Anyone Claim Otherwise [View all] cbayer Mar 2014 OP

The thing is, cbayer, few of them even understand it's bigotry. trotsky Mar 2014 #1

Makes you wonder why something that doesn't require it skepticscott Mar 2014 #2

Huguenin is FULL OF SHIT. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #3

That's pretty much the point of the article. cbayer Mar 2014 #6

I'm agreeing. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #9

To believe in the major religions requires bigotry... MellowDem Mar 2014 #4

Well, yes�persecuting and slaughtering other peoples skepticscott Mar 2014 #5

What utter horseshit. cbayer Mar 2014 #7

Well good thing I didn't... MellowDem Mar 2014 #8

No actually, you directed your comments at believers of the major religions. cbayer Mar 2014 #13

Christianity, Islam, Judaism... MellowDem Mar 2014 #68

Saying that christianity, islam and judaism are all fundamentally bigoted is cbayer Mar 2014 #74

How so? MellowDem Mar 2014 #82

Pointing out bigotry is not bigotry. cbayer Mar 2014 #83

I'm not broad brushing a group... MellowDem Mar 2014 #84

No you are broad brushing people who ascribe to those belief systems. cbayer Mar 2014 #85

Most of us on DU... MellowDem Mar 2014 #86

That is correct. And the small bit that religious affiliation gives to some pales in cbayer Mar 2014 #87

Cherry picking is fine, but it's not religion... MellowDem Mar 2014 #88

That's not what MellowDem said. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #10

I am shocked to see you supporting that statement. cbayer Mar 2014 #14

Have you read the catholic bible or the quran? AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #16

You and MellowDem have so much in common. cbayer Mar 2014 #18

Not cherry picked. Built upon it. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #22

How does your cherry picking only the rotten fruit differ from those cbayer Mar 2014 #23

I'm not the one that came up with the idea that AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #24

There are believers and non-believers that hold homophobic cbayer Mar 2014 #28

Thanks for repeating what I just said, and completely missing the point. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #33

Not remotely the point skepticscott Mar 2014 #26

And that post drips with bigotry. n/t Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #11

How so? MellowDem Mar 2014 #12

They may have areas of bigotry and areas of amazing inclusiveness. cbayer Mar 2014 #15

All three books contain, not just bigotry, but AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #17

So what? They also contain some of the cbayer Mar 2014 #19

So your response to skepticscott Mar 2014 #21

Read more. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #25

No need. I feel certain that you have not read anything I have not. cbayer Mar 2014 #27

By all means, cite your 'love compassion and justice' from the bible. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #34

You have read the bible and not seen anything about love, compassion and justice? cbayer Mar 2014 #37

Sure, I particularly enjoyed the story of Job, wherein god killed his entire family AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #38

You are cherry picking and that wasn't the question, was it? cbayer Mar 2014 #39

You claimed: AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #40

Again, not surprised that you are not inspired by some of the better parts. cbayer Mar 2014 #41

So, did it help you understand torture and murder? AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #42

Understand torture and murder? I guess. cbayer Mar 2014 #43

A metaphor for... a third party that injures you and you should love it anyway? AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #44

Good analogy. I do think there are times that you need to love those that hurt you. cbayer Mar 2014 #45

What about loving people who intentionally hurt you just to see how much they can hurt you before AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #46

One of the messages that I like from christianity is "Turn the other cheek". cbayer Mar 2014 #47

It's not an interpretation. It's what it says. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #48

Nothing in the bible is objective fact. cbayer Mar 2014 #50

How does one interpret a story about torture and murder so that it doesn't include AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #52

See, this is what invariably happens when you try and parse what others say. cbayer Mar 2014 #54

You can't have your cake and eat it too. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #55

Why are you repeating what I have said? cbayer Mar 2014 #56

Yeah, play games. Fine. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #58

Congratulations. trotsky Mar 2014 #61

I love how defensively subjective these bible passages can be made to be AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #63

Quick point Dorian Gray Mar 2014 #71

So if I was standing next to someone who had a gun, trotsky Mar 2014 #73

Not only that but you specified in the bet AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #78

I didn't say Dorian Gray Mar 2014 #80

He instructed Satan to do so, but not to kill Job himself. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #77

Yep Dorian Gray Mar 2014 #81

Problem is, religion often claims to be "holy" and PERFECT. So if we see ANY bigotry and genocide? Brettongarcia Mar 2014 #79

What amazing irony skepticscott Mar 2014 #20

You really do not see the bigotry in saying Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #35

I've encountered enough so called progressive christians that 'love the sinner but hate the sin' AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #49

In other words, Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #51

Yeah, and it's a bigoted manner to say the KKK is a pack of bigoted vermin. Sure. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #53

The one trotting out the false equivalency is YOU, not me Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #57

I didn't equate them. Read harder. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #59

I did reread your post. Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #64

No, I didn't. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #65

Yes, you did equate religious believers with members of the Ku Klux Klan Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #69

Yeah, go play by yourself if all you can do is mischaracterize a post that's right there for every AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #75

The only shtick some have here skepticscott Mar 2014 #70

That's why I won't edit or delete that post. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #76

Hmmmmm el_bryanto Mar 2014 #36

tl;dr EvolveOrConvolve Mar 2014 #29

Too bad, it's a good article. cbayer Mar 2014 #30

I don't disagree EvolveOrConvolve Mar 2014 #31

Well, I guess we will never know if that is true or not. cbayer Mar 2014 #32

Sure it's possible. trotsky Mar 2014 #62

Safe havens tend to do that. rug Mar 2014 #66

If permitted to, they certainly do. cbayer Mar 2014 #67

Religion, in its... 3catwoman3 Mar 2014 #60

Most religion is based on "faith"; which means believing without evidence. Which is bigotry Brettongarcia Mar 2014 #72