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AtheistCrusader

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55. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Mon Mar 10, 2014, 02:44 PM
Mar 2014

"It's stories, allegory, metaphor, etc.

Maybe you taking it as literal is why you find it hard to see that others might interpret it differently.

Literal interpretations of the bible almost always fail, imo, and those that insist on it rarely make their point."

I was trying to give you an avenue to demonstrate your claim, that this could be allegory or metaphor. If it's not torture and murder, what is it? If it is torture and murder, then you are wasting my time, because my assessment holds.

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The thing is, cbayer, few of them even understand it's bigotry. trotsky Mar 2014 #1
Makes you wonder why something that doesn't require it skepticscott Mar 2014 #2
Huguenin is FULL OF SHIT. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #3
That's pretty much the point of the article. cbayer Mar 2014 #6
I'm agreeing. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #9
To believe in the major religions requires bigotry... MellowDem Mar 2014 #4
Well, yes…persecuting and slaughtering other peoples skepticscott Mar 2014 #5
What utter horseshit. cbayer Mar 2014 #7
Well good thing I didn't... MellowDem Mar 2014 #8
No actually, you directed your comments at believers of the major religions. cbayer Mar 2014 #13
Christianity, Islam, Judaism... MellowDem Mar 2014 #68
Saying that christianity, islam and judaism are all fundamentally bigoted is cbayer Mar 2014 #74
How so? MellowDem Mar 2014 #82
Pointing out bigotry is not bigotry. cbayer Mar 2014 #83
I'm not broad brushing a group... MellowDem Mar 2014 #84
No you are broad brushing people who ascribe to those belief systems. cbayer Mar 2014 #85
Most of us on DU... MellowDem Mar 2014 #86
That is correct. And the small bit that religious affiliation gives to some pales in cbayer Mar 2014 #87
Cherry picking is fine, but it's not religion... MellowDem Mar 2014 #88
That's not what MellowDem said. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #10
I am shocked to see you supporting that statement. cbayer Mar 2014 #14
Have you read the catholic bible or the quran? AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #16
You and MellowDem have so much in common. cbayer Mar 2014 #18
Not cherry picked. Built upon it. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #22
How does your cherry picking only the rotten fruit differ from those cbayer Mar 2014 #23
I'm not the one that came up with the idea that AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #24
There are believers and non-believers that hold homophobic cbayer Mar 2014 #28
Thanks for repeating what I just said, and completely missing the point. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #33
Not remotely the point skepticscott Mar 2014 #26
And that post drips with bigotry. n/t Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #11
How so? MellowDem Mar 2014 #12
They may have areas of bigotry and areas of amazing inclusiveness. cbayer Mar 2014 #15
All three books contain, not just bigotry, but AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #17
So what? They also contain some of the cbayer Mar 2014 #19
So your response to skepticscott Mar 2014 #21
Read more. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #25
No need. I feel certain that you have not read anything I have not. cbayer Mar 2014 #27
By all means, cite your 'love compassion and justice' from the bible. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #34
You have read the bible and not seen anything about love, compassion and justice? cbayer Mar 2014 #37
Sure, I particularly enjoyed the story of Job, wherein god killed his entire family AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #38
You are cherry picking and that wasn't the question, was it? cbayer Mar 2014 #39
You claimed: AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #40
Again, not surprised that you are not inspired by some of the better parts. cbayer Mar 2014 #41
So, did it help you understand torture and murder? AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #42
Understand torture and murder? I guess. cbayer Mar 2014 #43
A metaphor for... a third party that injures you and you should love it anyway? AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #44
Good analogy. I do think there are times that you need to love those that hurt you. cbayer Mar 2014 #45
What about loving people who intentionally hurt you just to see how much they can hurt you before AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #46
One of the messages that I like from christianity is "Turn the other cheek". cbayer Mar 2014 #47
It's not an interpretation. It's what it says. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #48
Nothing in the bible is objective fact. cbayer Mar 2014 #50
How does one interpret a story about torture and murder so that it doesn't include AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #52
See, this is what invariably happens when you try and parse what others say. cbayer Mar 2014 #54
You can't have your cake and eat it too. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #55
Why are you repeating what I have said? cbayer Mar 2014 #56
Yeah, play games. Fine. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #58
Congratulations. trotsky Mar 2014 #61
I love how defensively subjective these bible passages can be made to be AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #63
Quick point Dorian Gray Mar 2014 #71
So if I was standing next to someone who had a gun, trotsky Mar 2014 #73
Not only that but you specified in the bet AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #78
I didn't say Dorian Gray Mar 2014 #80
He instructed Satan to do so, but not to kill Job himself. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #77
Yep Dorian Gray Mar 2014 #81
Problem is, religion often claims to be "holy" and PERFECT. So if we see ANY bigotry and genocide? Brettongarcia Mar 2014 #79
What amazing irony skepticscott Mar 2014 #20
You really do not see the bigotry in saying Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #35
I've encountered enough so called progressive christians that 'love the sinner but hate the sin' AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #49
In other words, Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #51
Yeah, and it's a bigoted manner to say the KKK is a pack of bigoted vermin. Sure. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #53
The one trotting out the false equivalency is YOU, not me Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #57
I didn't equate them. Read harder. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #59
I did reread your post. Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #64
No, I didn't. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #65
Yes, you did equate religious believers with members of the Ku Klux Klan Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #69
Yeah, go play by yourself if all you can do is mischaracterize a post that's right there for every AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #75
The only shtick some have here skepticscott Mar 2014 #70
That's why I won't edit or delete that post. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #76
Hmmmmm el_bryanto Mar 2014 #36
tl;dr EvolveOrConvolve Mar 2014 #29
Too bad, it's a good article. cbayer Mar 2014 #30
I don't disagree EvolveOrConvolve Mar 2014 #31
Well, I guess we will never know if that is true or not. cbayer Mar 2014 #32
Sure it's possible. trotsky Mar 2014 #62
Safe havens tend to do that. rug Mar 2014 #66
If permitted to, they certainly do. cbayer Mar 2014 #67
Religion, in its... 3catwoman3 Mar 2014 #60
Most religion is based on "faith"; which means believing without evidence. Which is bigotry Brettongarcia Mar 2014 #72
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