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Atheists can be homophobic and sexist, too [View all] rug Mar 2014 OP

Yes, you don't have to be a Catholic to be homophobic and sexist. mr blur Mar 2014 #1

Bwahahahahahaha! cleanhippie Mar 2014 #3

You don't need a peanut gallery to be a bigot. rug Mar 2014 #6

You don't need a broad brush to be a bigot. rug Mar 2014 #4

Atheism is not a guarantee of rationality. immoderate Mar 2014 #2

Atheism is not a guarantee of anything. rug Mar 2014 #5

that's a ludicrous statement.... mike_c Mar 2014 #7

+100 nt Starboard Tack Mar 2014 #113

The demographic data supports that atheists are more liberal/progressive cbayer Mar 2014 #8

Don't worry, religion sets the bigoty bar ever higher, Uganda now marking a new Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #9

Since Silverman is not getting any traction from CPAC, that's probably true. rug Mar 2014 #10

Uganda. Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #12

Edwina Rogers. rug Mar 2014 #13

Personally most of the homophobia I have experienced came from religious people but hrmjustin Mar 2014 #11

Let the record show that the USSR and China Damansarajaya Mar 2014 #14

Nazis were religious Lordquinton Mar 2014 #99

I guess so, because that's a very debatable point Damansarajaya Mar 2014 #102

He also called himself a socialist. I put no stock in what Nazis say. rug Mar 2014 #103

Thank you. Damansarajaya Mar 2014 #111

It's not really debatable Lordquinton Mar 2014 #130

They had a red flag too. rug Mar 2014 #131

And? Lordquinton Mar 2014 #135

And they claimed to be socialists. rug Mar 2014 #136

They had priests, and marched under a cross Lordquinton Mar 2014 #145

They also nationalized industry, created state-run work programs, and extended senior benefits. rug Mar 2014 #148

I'm not? Lordquinton Mar 2014 #149

Some were religious while others, such as Bormann and Goebbels, were atheist. rug Mar 2014 #150

This is the most bizarre denial of history I've seen on this board. Lordquinton Mar 2014 #151

Well, I've been biting my tongue but I will say peddlers of evil conspiracies tend to be deluded. rug Mar 2014 #152

Can you put a little more context into your posts? Lordquinton Mar 2014 #153

I'm glad you value context. rug Mar 2014 #158

How does that apply in any way? Lordquinton Mar 2014 #159

You were not correcting a factual error, you were perpetuating one. rug Mar 2014 #160

Yea, clear you need to re-evaulate history Lordquinton Mar 2014 #161

I'd like some sources for this information. Damansarajaya Mar 2014 #174

Sources are out there Lordquinton Apr 2014 #175

Geez. The First Reich was the Holy Roman Empire, established centuries after the fall of Rome. rug Apr 2014 #176

Atheism is the rejection of a claim phil89 Mar 2014 #15

The article refers to some atheists (20% per its data) not atheism. rug Mar 2014 #16

Yes, but the Abrahamic religions require bigotry... MellowDem Mar 2014 #17

Well, that's well-wrapped bullshit. rug Mar 2014 #18

No, it's the truth... MellowDem Mar 2014 #20

Calling shallow nonsense designed to buttress a worldview "truth" does not make it truth. rug Mar 2014 #22

Exactly... MellowDem Mar 2014 #26

Au contraire, mon frere. It is you who claim Abrahamic religions are based on bigotry. rug Mar 2014 #27

I pointed some very compelling evidence out... MellowDem Mar 2014 #29

Where? rug Mar 2014 #30

Third response in this subthread MellowDem Mar 2014 #31

Post 20? rug Mar 2014 #34

Yes MellowDem Mar 2014 #35

Not to be difficult but I don't think this constitutes compelling evidence. rug Mar 2014 #36

Genesis 3:16 MellowDem Mar 2014 #39

1 Romans 5:14 rug Mar 2014 #40

+1. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #43

What spurious point? MellowDem Mar 2014 #44

Ok, ignorant then. rug Mar 2014 #46

You know what the whole notion of the Fall is? MellowDem Mar 2014 #87

I know what they say it is. rug Mar 2014 #88

Nope... MellowDem Mar 2014 #90

Religions do not promote bigotry Starboard Tack Mar 2014 #129

I think many major religions do promote bigotry... MellowDem Mar 2014 #133

Ooh! Ooh! Can I play? AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #53

No. rug Mar 2014 #61

I'm sure from your perspective AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #64

I'm sure that's what "the rest of us", whomever they may be, believe. rug Mar 2014 #66

Are we quoting Republicans now? AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #70

The Republican who started the draft Lincoln movement, yes. rug Mar 2014 #73

You mean the Liberal Republican Party TM99 Mar 2014 #74

I know. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #81

Then why did you reply TM99 Mar 2014 #98

I was reflecting a tactic. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #104

Really? Funny when I go to church they never tell me I have to be bigoted. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #19

No, just intellectually dishonest... MellowDem Mar 2014 #21

Well I assure you I have no stress when dealing with my beliefs in God and the bible. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #24

I don't doubt you are honest about your faith... MellowDem Mar 2014 #28

Ok well I can tell you I don't believe every part of the bible so I have no stress. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #32

Then the word Christian is meaningless... MellowDem Mar 2014 #37

Well I will put it this way and end this conversation now. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #38

All I care about is honest discussion and finding the truth... MellowDem Mar 2014 #41

When you insult me you can't have an honest conversation with me. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #42

It's not an insult, it's being honest. MellowDem Mar 2014 #45

Just what the Religion Group needs, Simon Cowell. rug Mar 2014 #47

The Episcopal Church, okasha Mar 2014 #48

Sure I can... MellowDem Mar 2014 #89

Woulf that be anything like okasha Mar 2014 #91

The insults just keep flying with that poster. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #92

Yup. okasha Mar 2014 #93

lol that is true. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #94

And 3rd. place is riding his tail. okasha Mar 2014 #95

That would be great. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #96

Make that okasha Mar 2014 #97

Gosh, I do hope I'm in the running. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #108

If only anyone could actually point out how many of the fundamental beliefs... MellowDem Mar 2014 #117

If you could actually define what constitutes a mental disorder, that might be even cbayer Mar 2014 #118

I like the Wikipedia definition... MellowDem Mar 2014 #119

For the record, here is the wikipedia definition of mental disorder: cbayer Mar 2014 #120

I just explained it... MellowDem Mar 2014 #122

You thinking they are terrible, harmful and maladaptive doesn't make them an illness. cbayer Mar 2014 #124

Sure it does... MellowDem Mar 2014 #125

What a disorder is is not completely subjective. cbayer Mar 2014 #126

I got that idea from reality... MellowDem Mar 2014 #140

You got that idea from reality. cbayer Mar 2014 #147

You can rant at me all you want... MellowDem Mar 2014 #162

Nope. The definition of disorder, when used medically, is not cbayer Mar 2014 #165

What is the medical definition of disorder... MellowDem Mar 2014 #167

Yeah, that's the ticket. I don't understand what subjective and objective mean. cbayer Mar 2014 #169

That is the appropriate response. MellowDem Mar 2014 #170

Like you identifying as a mellow democrat, while voicing such ugly cbayer Mar 2014 #101

If you could back up your claims... MellowDem Mar 2014 #121

Christianity arose as a splinter from Judaism, and Judaism has a very ancient tradition struggle4progress Mar 2014 #49

Why do you presume that religious TM99 Mar 2014 #51

Yeah, learn how to make a stinking heap of bigotry and misogyny say whatever you want it to. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #52

So you are no different than a fundamentalist. TM99 Mar 2014 #55

You can pretend it says any damn thing that makes you feel better, I don't give a shit. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #56

Then perhaps you should NOT post in the Religion Group? TM99 Mar 2014 #59

Maybe you're new here. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #60

Oh, I know the rules. TM99 Mar 2014 #62

None of this distracts from the inconvenient sexism in the texts upon which major religions are AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #65

Not a deflection, and hardly inconvenient to religious people TM99 Mar 2014 #75

Bullshit. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #82

Bullshit right back at you. TM99 Mar 2014 #100

No, that's exactly what I didn't do. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #105

Since you're compelled to drag me into this, is there something you wanted to say? rug Mar 2014 #106

Not particularly. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #107

NP.Thanks for the clarification. rug Mar 2014 #109

So a lot of words TM99 Mar 2014 #110

That's not what you said. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #112

For a lot of words in reply, TM99 Mar 2014 #115

Cite the post numbers. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #116

At this point Dorian Gray Mar 2014 #78

It's hard to contain a huge idea in minutiae. rug Mar 2014 #86

What you are insisting is Christianity-- okasha Mar 2014 #138

No, I'm talking about people who say parts of the Bible are false... MellowDem Mar 2014 #139

No. You are insisting okasha Mar 2014 #141

The only willful dishonesty... MellowDem Mar 2014 #142

I prefer to allow Christians to define themselves. okasha Mar 2014 #143

Well said! hrmjustin Mar 2014 #144

And I prefer to call out hypocrites and liars MellowDem Mar 2014 #154

Well, when you maintain that you hold the true definition of religion cbayer Mar 2014 #156

No, what's really convenient... MellowDem Mar 2014 #163

Much more so than "disorder", the definition of religion is highly subjecive cbayer Mar 2014 #166

All definitions are subjective... MellowDem Mar 2014 #168

I suggest you find another hobby then. okasha Mar 2014 #157

Your snark and lack of argument are noted... MellowDem Mar 2014 #164

You have just described yourself. okasha Mar 2014 #171

Just curious which parts do you just throw away? Leontius Mar 2014 #76

I don't say I throw them away. I think some is allegory and just trying to tell a story. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #77

Do you look for patterns flowing through the Bible that tie it together seamlessly even through, Leontius Mar 2014 #79

Yes there are plenty of patterns in the bible. The wriiters of the bible used earlier text as a hrmjustin Mar 2014 #80

Me too. I must havd been distracted by all the bigots muttering their rosaries. rug Mar 2014 #23

Well we need to pay more attention to those sermons. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #25

It can be distracting. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #54

I agree. Have you taken it? rug Mar 2014 #57

You can do better than that. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #58

Indeed I can. rug Mar 2014 #63

But I raised my 'problem' with you. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #68

I must have missed it. What is your problem? rug Mar 2014 #69

Bigotry, sexism and other sundry issues institutionalized in the founding source material of multipl AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #71

What about bigotry that's not based in religious texts? rug Mar 2014 #72

Still bigotry. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #83

I donn't know about that. rug Mar 2014 #84

Oh, they get their fair share, trust me. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #85

What problem? hrmjustin Mar 2014 #67

Makes one wonder why some atheists feel it necessary to subscribe to bigotry Starboard Tack Mar 2014 #114

Religious beliefs promote and condone all sorts of fear and bigotry... MellowDem Mar 2014 #123

Apparently lack of beliefs can also promote all sort of fear and bigotry. cbayer Mar 2014 #127

You can't say "apparently" MellowDem Mar 2014 #132

Sure I can. cbayer Mar 2014 #134

It's not literalism... MellowDem Mar 2014 #137

It's intellectually dishonest to continue to say the exact same cbayer Mar 2014 #146

I've been told it's not true... MellowDem Mar 2014 #155

yes and yes bluestateguy Mar 2014 #33

Anecdotal story. Inkfreak Mar 2014 #50

I don't much care for these kind of arguments. Oakenshield Mar 2014 #128

No they can't, if we follow the same standards you do for people in your church... Humanist_Activist Mar 2014 #172

Hi, Roy. rug Mar 2014 #173