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28. I wouldn't say Atheists are persecuted.
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 01:45 PM
Mar 2014

I think it's pretty much fundamental, evangelical Christians who have a lock on that. We non-believers are torturing them by not buying into their beliefs and resisting, as much as we can, their apparent desire to turn the US into a theocracy. I think atheists are discriminated against, though. They're seen as having no morals and no ethics and as not worthy of trust. That's my perception from what I read and see. I live in a place where the plumber and such have trucks emblazoned with bible verses and the fact that they are Christians, often right close to the stars and bars in their rear window. That fact is on signs outside of businesses everywhere. I can't really imagine anyone advertising as a Humanist, for instance, to recommend themselves. If someone did, I think I might see discrimination become persecution double quick.

I haven't always been an atheist. In fact in my teens, I was a passionate Christian. I still believe that some of the things Jesus said are good things to live by. It's hard to put a finger on what changed me. Reading, living for awhile elsewhere among different kinds of people? But eventually the way I'd grown to perceive the world just wouldn't align with Christian beliefs. I could no longer twist my thinking around to fit the pattern. I no longer wanted to.

I'm still, though, rather far back in the closet, just venturing a toe out, as I am now.

Persecution by 'default'? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2014 #1
That's my observation as well el_bryanto Mar 2014 #2
Better never say sending out good vibes HockeyMom Mar 2014 #5
I live in NY so I don't se it here but I am sure in many rural areas Atheists get discriminated hrmjustin Mar 2014 #3
I think it is more anyone who does not identify as "Christian". redstatebluegirl Mar 2014 #4
Your religion, or lack of one, HockeyMom Mar 2014 #8
Years ago, no one asked because it was ASSUMED everyone believed. cleanhippie Mar 2014 #30
Not in how I would define edhopper Mar 2014 #6
Good point. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2014 #7
I think "persecution" edhopper Mar 2014 #10
To me, it also implies conscious intent. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2014 #14
The issue is that when you start parsing it that bad el_bryanto Mar 2014 #9
True edhopper Mar 2014 #12
That was the other way I considered structuring it el_bryanto Mar 2014 #17
In all fairness LostOne4Ever Mar 2014 #24
In all fairness, okasha Mar 2014 #40
No disagreement there (nt) LostOne4Ever Mar 2014 #41
I was hesitant to Dorian Gray Mar 2014 #32
So where did the phrase "persecuted minority" come from? skepticscott Mar 2014 #11
Fundy Christians edhopper Mar 2014 #13
Well I don't want to say that I made it up, as I have heard it said elsewhere el_bryanto Mar 2014 #16
In other words, you can't point to any American atheists skepticscott Mar 2014 #18
Perhaps I should make it clear - I think that Atheists are a Persecuted Minority el_bryanto Mar 2014 #19
Unless you have a very bizarre definition skepticscott Mar 2014 #22
OK I apologize for not phrasing my poll exactly as you would like me to. nt el_bryanto Mar 2014 #23
You religionists just never get tired of putting words in people's mouths, do you? skepticscott Mar 2014 #43
Why do you want to fight so much? Do I anger you up so much el_bryanto Mar 2014 #44
If you're wishing for a more congenial atmosphere skepticscott Mar 2014 #45
Which way did I vote? That's easy enough to check. I've also expressed my opinion el_bryanto Mar 2014 #46
The fact that you say skepticscott Mar 2014 #47
Some disagreed with my wording, and we discussed it. Some didn't. el_bryanto Mar 2014 #48
27 did. Pesky facts. rug Mar 2014 #49
Persecuted? No. Subject to prejudice? Yes. cbayer Mar 2014 #15
More of your invented falsehoods about atheists skepticscott Mar 2014 #21
Well of course they are. TygrBright Mar 2014 #20
The privileged rarely persecute their own, let alone for disagreeing on religious beliefs. rug Mar 2014 #25
Speaking as an atheist, I can't think of a single time in my life when I've been persecuted for Jgarrick Mar 2014 #26
I wouldn't go so far as to say "persecuted" Prophet 451 Mar 2014 #27
Villified is a good word. Mariana Mar 2014 #29
I wouldn't say Atheists are persecuted. stage left Mar 2014 #28
As others have pointed out, persecuted isn't really the right word. temporary311 Mar 2014 #31
Not American, so didn't vote LeftishBrit Mar 2014 #33
Do atheists represent a political constituency with a discernable political agenda? struggle4progress Mar 2014 #35
No more than women, Jews, Muslims, African-Americans, etc.... LeftishBrit Mar 2014 #36
Admitting to atheism doesn't automatically lead to ineligibility for office struggle4progress Mar 2014 #37
Certainly great progress... LeftishBrit Mar 2014 #38
More precisely, the poll shows nearly half would not vote for an atheist for president struggle4progress Mar 2014 #39
I believe there is an open atheist in Congress. The choice of pronoun is deliberate, however. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2014 #50
Imagine, for a moment, in a discussion about ANY other minority... trotsky Mar 2014 #52
Those laws were overturned okasha Mar 2014 #42
Ergo, discrimination against atheists doesn't exist. trotsky Mar 2014 #53
Reactions to different views probably vary according to where one lives struggle4progress Mar 2014 #34
I wouldn't use the word persecuted Niceguy1 Mar 2014 #51
I wouldn't say we're persecuted in America at all. JoeyT Mar 2014 #54
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