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TM99

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21. So what?

Sun Apr 6, 2014, 01:48 PM

Apr 2014

Personally, I didn't read it that way. If I argue to that point, you will simply dismiss it as being 'intellectually dishonest'.

So, you believe that he did. And again, I ask so what? Host or not, so what?

Why are you taking that comment so personally? If you are a 'big boy' enough to handle commenting on a post that detailed a tragic event with a certain amount of Schadenfreude or 'irony' as you wanted to say it, well then are you a 'big boy' enough to handle others' responses to you, whether they are the host or not and whether or not you might like what they have to say in return?

I won't comment on AtheistCrusader, as that person did not make this post.

I have seen you and others wade into topics here with a great deal of anger and a bitter tongue. Topics are started to score points yet rarely to discuss.

I have not seen the hosts ban y'all. I have not seen many jury alerts either. If individuals including a host decide to set a boundary by putting a member on ignore that is an appropriate adult response. I see quite a few members, both believers and unbelievers, that I can easily respect. They are human. They can get frustrated and loose their temper. Hell I have done it here as well.

We are also foolish enough to wade into the constant and never-ending debates. There are quite a few topics that believers and unbelievers alike could discuss. Yet this group rarely seems to ever get to discuss religion as religion per se. It often is just a battleground for atheists and anti-theists to come in and argue like sophomore philosophy students -a whole lot of sturm und drang that distracts from any rational and reasonable ideas that might be worthy of such a discussion.

I found your and several other posters comments in that thread quite sad. It was a tragic event. I don't delight in the suffering of others. There is suffering enough. Maybe have the decency to recognize that comedy as Carol Burnett once said is tragedy plus time.

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I have a problem with a Religion host [View all] Goblinmonger Apr 2014 OP

my honest feelings are that Heddi Apr 2014 #1

I only start the thread because he's a host. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #2

I completely agree with you, and when I read that post last night Heddi Apr 2014 #5

Here's a summary of all non-archived discussions by Religion group hosts struggle4progress Apr 2014 #53

I find your post ironic. Maedhros Apr 2014 #151

Morning Goblinmonger, the alert and jury function are always an option in this Group as in any other pinto Apr 2014 #3

I have no desire to send them to jury Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #4

Yeah, get that about the room. Most times I like the back and forth, but sometimes... pinto Apr 2014 #8

You could try ATA but I think complaining to Religion group hosts has better prospects of success struggle4progress Apr 2014 #40

Admin is pretty clear hosts get to do what they want Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #43

I clicked on the link and read all the posts in question. thucythucy Apr 2014 #9

You don't "a dog in this fight"? Well, if you say so. mr blur Apr 2014 #12

By "not having a dog in this fight" thucythucy Apr 2014 #23

Just a point on agnosticism... MellowDem Apr 2014 #233

If this were a safe haven and that person not a host Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #25

Yes, interesting rhetoric JNelson6563 Apr 2014 #30

This not being a "safe haven" cuts both ways. thucythucy Apr 2014 #38

Ouch! Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #410

There's no way i'd ever choose to be a host Dorian Gray Apr 2014 #68

I think the problem Goblinmonger has is with the host. The alert function Autumn Apr 2014 #6

I can't imagine why you would be "scared to post in here" struggle4progress Apr 2014 #18

Religion is a terrifying thing to discuss. Autumn Apr 2014 #19

I LOVE Laurel and Hardy. Nt. thucythucy Apr 2014 #27

I didn't know the host status was on that one. Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #7

I wouldn't hold my breath Rob H. Apr 2014 #11

Perhaps some of these links will help you make your case struggle4progress Apr 2014 #15

You are free to contact the other hosts and ask for my removal: IMO the original agreement struggle4progress Apr 2014 #10

Do you really believe this nonsense? Sadly, you probaby do. mr blur Apr 2014 #13

Perhaps you are upset because struggle4progress Apr 2014 #17

You carefully called one person a nazi and the other an anti-semite. Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #14

You are free to contact the other hosts and ask for my removal: IMO the original agreement struggle4progress Apr 2014 #16

You should apologize for those remarks. Arugula Latte Apr 2014 #29

Violating safe havens? Lordquinton Apr 2014 #69

That's not "violating" a safe haven. There are no secret societies on DU. rug Apr 2014 #90

Safe havens are places where posters are supposed to feel safe in posting Lordquinton Apr 2014 #229

People are allowed to read safe havens and link to them. there is no rule against it. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #230

So because there is no rule against it it's not wrong? Lordquinton Apr 2014 #245

That is not true. Several members of AA have come to interfaith and two were banned. I banned one hrmjustin Apr 2014 #250

What I said was true Lordquinton Apr 2014 #401

First of all I was made a host because I post the most ops there and can keep an eye on the room. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #406

Atheists are allowed in interfaith but they can not criticize people of faith. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #412

If you think certain people should not be able to view the A/A group, I'm sure site Administrators struggle4progress Apr 2014 #232

There are also closed facebook sites and a few sites dedicated to monitoring & complaining about DU. rug Apr 2014 #237

And they're not places for gossip, personal attacks and ridicule of other DU groups and members. rug Apr 2014 #235

You shouldn't hate yourself Lordquinton Apr 2014 #244

QED. rug Apr 2014 #247

I want to discuss it in here; we are a community. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #26

Not 'somehow', the connection is plain. AtheistCrusader Apr 2014 #171

Current hosting of this group allows you to trawl for reactions, though there is no guarantee struggle4progress Apr 2014 #172

I pointed out precedent in the source documentation of Abrahamic religions. AtheistCrusader Apr 2014 #175

He's a host of this forum??? Iggo Apr 2014 #20

So what? TM99 Apr 2014 #21

Yes, many of the "liberal" and "progressive" believers here skepticscott Apr 2014 #22

I can always count on you TM99 Apr 2014 #77

You're new here grasshopper, so let me clue you in a wee bit A HERETIC I AM Apr 2014 #126

Yes, I am relatively new here. TM99 Apr 2014 #134

"So what rules of the 'new' DU now allow this meme to resurface?" A HERETIC I AM Apr 2014 #141

OK, I understand. TM99 Apr 2014 #146

HERETIC: Thanks for the background! Brettongarcia Apr 2014 #246

Yeah...looked through that thread....... A HERETIC I AM Apr 2014 #251

Well, looks like things are going OK here. Even staying on the legal side Brettongarcia Apr 2014 #267

Yawn. Been there, done that. skepticscott Apr 2014 #169

Repeatedly and pointlessly. rug Apr 2014 #174

Here is the action that I am going to take. TM99 Apr 2014 #190

You do realize none of that deals with your behavior/attitude Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #207

Really? TM99 Apr 2014 #210

You broke your own vow within 4 hours. Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #212

How so? TM99 Apr 2014 #213

I think I have been dealing with s4p just fine. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #214

Then we have nothing more to directly discuss in this thread. TM99 Apr 2014 #218

Well stated. rug Apr 2014 #215

In other words, you have no intention skepticscott Apr 2014 #238

Interfaith is for everyone. Check out the Group SOP. MADem Apr 2014 #456

I have now done so TM99 Apr 2014 #457

He was informed of the nature of the Interfaith Group skepticscott Apr 2014 #467

I have yet to read an original comment under your name, let alone a civil one. rug Apr 2014 #92

If he weren't a host. I would not have started this thread Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #28

S4p did not call you a Nazi. okasha Apr 2014 #34

Yes. It was all couched in vagueness Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #36

Now that is funny. okasha Apr 2014 #41

Did that really go over your head? Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #44

Nope. okasha Apr 2014 #52

If you think Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #54

Just like the vagueness of the anti-semitism at the end of an article you linked to earlier in an OP Leontius Apr 2014 #66

Here's that thread for those interested: struggle4progress Apr 2014 #67

Just as well the 'Columbus Atheism Examiner' isn't a host on DU, then muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #74

I missed what you are referring to could you give me a post number so I can go back Leontius Apr 2014 #145

There are 2 threads that this OP links to muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #148

Found the thread and S4P did jump to the anti-semitism conclusion wrongly I think. Leontius Apr 2014 #160

We are briefly discussing this earlier OP by Goblinmonger struggle4progress Apr 2014 #152

I don't think you understood my post. TM99 Apr 2014 #78

You know who else didn't like comedies? Act_of_Reparation Apr 2014 #79

OMG! TM99 Apr 2014 #82

I didn't call you a Nazi. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2014 #84

You implied it. TM99 Apr 2014 #87

The point of this thread Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #88

I asked you TM99 Apr 2014 #89

I keep going like always. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #97

It still sounds like TM99 Apr 2014 #125

First of all, there is no group that I have. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #128

Now you just aren't making any sense. TM99 Apr 2014 #137

You keep asking me what I'm going to do Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #143

To answer your questions TM99 Apr 2014 #147

Did I? Act_of_Reparation Apr 2014 #91

This is all you have? TM99 Apr 2014 #103

Yeah, I'm kind of a one-trick pony like that. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2014 #109

Nope. TM99 Apr 2014 #123

The thread you link was hidden by a DU3 jury, somehow randomly selected by the DU3 software struggle4progress Apr 2014 #130

I didn't mean to imply you did the alerting Act_of_Reparation Apr 2014 #157

You might feel better when I tell you that my alerts do not always succeed either struggle4progress Apr 2014 #158

Not particularly Act_of_Reparation Apr 2014 #164

Quick! Start a thread! rug Apr 2014 #93

I agree with those two comments being over the line LostOne4Ever Apr 2014 #24

Any host from any group or forum can post in the Forum & Group Hosts forum, and struggle4progress Apr 2014 #47

Thank you very much! (nt) LostOne4Ever Apr 2014 #50

One qualifier to that-- hosts don't always... TreasonousBastard Apr 2014 #70

To my knowledge, all substantive discussion by the Religion group hosts has occurred struggle4progress Apr 2014 #105

With Religion, that makes sense with all that goes on there, and... TreasonousBastard Apr 2014 #106

Unless you think DU hosting is a religious duty, this sniveling violates this Group's SoP. rug Apr 2014 #31

In the interests of fairness, I should point out that about a week ago struggle4progress Apr 2014 #115

As it is, this thread has become a parade of baboons flashing their asses to see whose is redder. rug Apr 2014 #163

Yes. Unfortunately, it's typical of threads in the Religion Group. Jim__ Apr 2014 #166

Now we know what happens when you combine meta with personality. rug Apr 2014 #167

I thought you brought up trying to change tone last night Heddi Apr 2014 #170

Do a screen shot of the posts after that. rug Apr 2014 #173

Show me posts that *I* made that counter what I posted to you Heddi Apr 2014 #176

Then you should post screenshots of the replies I make to you rug Apr 2014 #177

I have a problem okasha Apr 2014 #32

Your opinion is duly noted and expected. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #33

Which, of course, you weren't. But you were having a hearty chortle over these deaths. rug Apr 2014 #35

I like black humor just fine. okasha Apr 2014 #37

"before you hurt yourself worse" Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #39

It means okasha Apr 2014 #42

Losing credibility with you? Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #46

No one has actually called you a Nazi. okasha Apr 2014 #57

The fact that you are being so supportive Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #58

Just so we're being honest, okasha Apr 2014 #59

Really, I didn't know that. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #62

Don't you mean "implying" you were a Nazi? okasha Apr 2014 #63

Well, your vote is noted. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #65

Let's be clear: what "pretty bad form"? rug Apr 2014 #61

I love how you're being told "YOU weren't called a Nazi...you were compared to one...possibly." Heddi Apr 2014 #45

Go for it! In the name of Science! rug Apr 2014 #48

stating facts is now "striking a pose?" Heddi Apr 2014 #49

Any resemblance between the opinions you stated and facts is coincidental. rug Apr 2014 #51

I can do it. Can you? Can others? More so...will they? Will I? Heddi Apr 2014 #55

We'll see. The starting point is acknowledging it has to stop. rug Apr 2014 #56

Don't bring up any issue to do with LGBT'ers with rug, he has no opinion on them... Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #71

Would you like to be less cryptic? rug Apr 2014 #94

I would like you to be less cryptic... Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #117

Since you haven't answered, I'll be less cryptic: rug Apr 2014 #162

No, I don't have enough information to judge whether you are a homophobe or not. Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #355

FWIW, I thought struggle4progress should have consdiered their position as host muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #60

Thanks for that Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #64

Do you expect the poster, host or no host, who posts stuff like this... Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #72

Charming. That post is actually a TOS violation. Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #75

You're free to alert on that post: it hasn't fallen into the archives yet. It's too late to ask struggle4progress Apr 2014 #111

I know, I alerted on it, and, surprise surprise, it didn't get hidden. n/t Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #118

Perhaps a certain level of reading proficiency should be a requirement for posting at DU struggle4progress Apr 2014 #122

I wasn't the only one who objected to that post, or recognized it for what it was. Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #124

You might feel better when I tell you that my alerts do not always succeed either struggle4progress Apr 2014 #127

Given the context of that thread, I see no problem with the cited post. - n/t Jim__ Apr 2014 #73

Btw, OP jury results PunkinPi Apr 2014 #76

FWIW, the alerter is wrong - Skinner has been pretty clear it's up to the group to agitate muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #99

#115 upthread may be relevant struggle4progress Apr 2014 #121

Ah, you were the atheist who objected to atheist bigotry being called bigotry Fortinbras Armstrong Apr 2014 #80

I believe they feel that they are opposed to a belief not believers el_bryanto Apr 2014 #81

A jury of your peers agreed that your post should be locked. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #83

But YOU were the one who whined about it Fortinbras Armstrong Apr 2014 #85

When did I say that? Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #86

It was clearly implied Fortinbras Armstrong Apr 2014 #119

You have my exact wording. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #129

The ONLY way your alert makes sense would be if no atheist, anywhere were bigoted Fortinbras Armstrong Apr 2014 #357

Just so I'm clear Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #358

I decryed atheist bigotry Fortinbras Armstrong Apr 2014 #360

How have I engaged in an ad hom? Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #361

FA, you've made it clear your concept of "evidence" is weak. trotsky Apr 2014 #362

The religion forum is pretty tribal these days el_bryanto Apr 2014 #95

Is the instance in question Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #96

I don't pay attention to who is a host and who isn't el_bryanto Apr 2014 #100

I think it is horribly disingenuous to say I'm reading into it. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #102

Ah yes - well i've been accused of being disingenuous as well - regularly and repeatedly. el_bryanto Apr 2014 #104

The Religion group has exactly 5 hosts, pursuant to the hosting agreement struggle4progress Apr 2014 #108

So 2 believers 2 atheists and . . . ? nt el_bryanto Apr 2014 #110

Our top host often does not engage in hosting discussions and is primarily available struggle4progress Apr 2014 #112

So the top host would be the one to remove you if it's felt you went too far? nt el_bryanto Apr 2014 #114

Read the hosting agreement, that I linked for you: I don't think it gives the top host struggle4progress Apr 2014 #116

Do you stand by your statement in that other thread, by the way? el_bryanto Apr 2014 #131

See #10 struggle4progress Apr 2014 #133

So in other words you are comfortable suggesting that Goblinmonger is akin to a Nazi? nt el_bryanto Apr 2014 #136

See #10 struggle4progress Apr 2014 #139

Do you have a macro to just paste "See #10." el_bryanto Apr 2014 #140

I'll repaste my response #10 to Goblinmonger here; there's no point in saying it struggle4progress Apr 2014 #142

I agree there's no point in saying the same thing again and again. el_bryanto Apr 2014 #144

You may wish to review the subthread of which Goblinmonger complains: struggle4progress Apr 2014 #149

You forgot one part Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #154

Perhaps a certain level of reading proficiency should be a requirement for posting at DU struggle4progress Apr 2014 #156

Thank you for explaining to me what I already read el_bryanto Apr 2014 #161

And I responded to 10 Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #138

No, I think it does give them freedom to remove you - that's why we wanted them as top host muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #132

See #10 struggle4progress Apr 2014 #135

That reminds me of this one article I love to link LostOne4Ever Apr 2014 #113

Well exactly - and given the moral stance many take against religion el_bryanto Apr 2014 #120

I'm afraid that your perspective is faulty. mr blur Apr 2014 #98

Ah - that's convenient. So your tribe is pretty much blameless and my tribe is pretty much guilty? el_bryanto Apr 2014 #101

As an Atheist myself, my limited interactions with other Atheists on this forum Maedhros Apr 2014 #153

Accurately stated. rug Apr 2014 #165

Well, given the behavior exhibited by other hosts in here... trotsky Apr 2014 #107

I'm a host of this group. ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #150

IIRC we have temporarily banned exactly two people, each twice now, one theist and one anti-theist struggle4progress Apr 2014 #155

I think I have been pretty clear. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #159

You've been very clear. trotsky Apr 2014 #178

. rug Apr 2014 #179

I; think you:re just -- grump'y because I disagree,d with you'r theories) (about punctuation struggle4progress Apr 2014 #188

Yes I agree that the software can take care of the issue. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #168

Who's asking for the banning of a longtime member? Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #183

I never said you did say that. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #185

What do you think about struggle4progress accusing AtheistCrusader of anti-semitism? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #195

I think it is, too. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #197

I think the words could have been more carefully chosen. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #202

The thread was about messages from God; AC brought up a famous biblical example muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #203

Your point is taken but I don't think it was his intention to say that the poster was anti-Semitic. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #204

Maybe not but when I went back and read that thread I think it went to far and does seem Leontius Apr 2014 #221

People make mistakes. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #222

They most certainly do it's called being human. Leontius Apr 2014 #223

The following mechanisms are available at DU3 for handling posts one dislikes: struggle4progress Apr 2014 #225

Considering what I have been called by certain posters in this forum I don't Leontius Apr 2014 #227

Or they Dorian Gray Apr 2014 #236

As Goblinmonger self-describes as struggle4progress Apr 2014 #240

You're a piece of work Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #249

Here are some of the key attributes of being a Christian as I understand it: trotsky Apr 2014 #252

I've noticed that when you do apologize to an atheist or ask to clarify your comments el_bryanto Apr 2014 #253

I'm so sorry to hear that. trotsky Apr 2014 #255

Move on? Are you suggesting, as so many atheist have done, that I leave the religion forum? el_bryanto Apr 2014 #257

Nope, I'm saying that you seem to be disregarding Jesus' teachings. trotsky Apr 2014 #261

thank you for explaining Christianity to me. el_bryanto Apr 2014 #264

What do you think Jesus meant when he said that his followers should... trotsky Apr 2014 #265

You insulted DU Chistians here. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #266

Are you saying you don't think those are key attributes of being a Christian? trotsky Apr 2014 #268

You posted this. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #269

I ask again, what exactly is the insult? trotsky Apr 2014 #270

Your accusing us of being unchristian. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #272

Yet DU Christians routinely claim other people aren't being Christian.. trotsky Apr 2014 #273

Yes it is reasonable to point out a group or person is being hypocritcal but it can be taken hrmjustin Apr 2014 #277

Yes, I am a horrible person and deserve to be treated badly. That is well established. trotsky Apr 2014 #278

No it can be taken as an insult. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #280

So what I say is true and correct, trotsky Apr 2014 #287

No I think you going after the members of this board who are Christians for not being acting hrmjustin Apr 2014 #293

You bet your ass I'm hostile to hypocrites. trotsky Apr 2014 #301

No believers are hostile as well. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #303

Then name them. trotsky Apr 2014 #304

No. I called you out because of what you said. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #307

But you won't call out any DU Christians because of what they've said. trotsky Apr 2014 #309

That is not true. but people I am on good terms with I usually send a pm to. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #311

Like I said, I got it. trotsky Apr 2014 #318

You didn't read what I wrote. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #320

Yup, got it. trotsky Apr 2014 #322

You do that but to be honest I don't care. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #323

Likewise, hrmjustin. trotsky Apr 2014 #329

While I agree I could always improve myself I am a very polite poster. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #332

Like calling us antisemitic? Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #275

As I said I think he should have used different words and you have reason to be upset. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #276

That's not saying it was out of line or unChristian. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #279

How do you know what I said to S4P? hrmjustin Apr 2014 #282

I thought you said he accused you of anti-semitism. When did you shift it to plural? rug Apr 2014 #345

The anti-semitism part is about Atheist Crusader the nazi part is about Goblinmonger. Leontius Apr 2014 #349

Who did he say tortured puppies? rug Apr 2014 #350

It was that big guy with the cat tatoos. Leontius Apr 2014 #351

I don't think you are being nasty and insulting right now - you generally aren't el_bryanto Apr 2014 #271

If you want to go with the tribe meme, then that's all DU is. trotsky Apr 2014 #274

Do you perfectly uphold all of your principals all the time? el_bryanto Apr 2014 #281

I don't think anyone can! trotsky Apr 2014 #291

I didn't say that. el_bryanto Apr 2014 #292

Actually I do find the tribe meme interesting LostOne4Ever Apr 2014 #285

Why do you cite people who never existed? Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #417

I'm sorry that happened. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #259

That is my experience in this room. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #260

Perhaps you could teach us by example. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #254

I'm not the one who claims to be a Christian. trotsky Apr 2014 #256

well it was worth a shot. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #258

I haven't said someone is acting like a Nazi. trotsky Apr 2014 #262

I never said you did. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #263

It occurs to me belatedly okasha Apr 2014 #180

Just so we are clear. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #181

You're a believer - just so you know that taken to extremes can lead to killing children el_bryanto Apr 2014 #182

Who has said that though? Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #184

How demure. rug Apr 2014 #187

Tribalism - your tribe is guilty, my tribe is innocent el_bryanto Apr 2014 #189

That's bull and you know it everyone knows the implications made on every one Leontius Apr 2014 #224

People make mistakes. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #226

We'll end on agreement then. Leontius Apr 2014 #228

Just so we are clear okasha Apr 2014 #186

You want to talk about toxic behavior, okasha? trotsky Apr 2014 #191

Is Okasha the person who said those things? or someone else? nt el_bryanto Apr 2014 #192

She knows. n/t trotsky Apr 2014 #193

I don't - that's why I asked. nt el_bryanto Apr 2014 #194

No, I'm not. okasha Apr 2014 #198

That callout rule is so stupid it boggles the mind el_bryanto Apr 2014 #199

No, it's about the inconsistency. trotsky Apr 2014 #200

Are you opposed to toxic behavior? Or are you fine with it? el_bryanto Apr 2014 #201

Quite honestly, it's to be expected. trotsky Apr 2014 #205

And I'd like to see certain people stop pretending that all atheists in this forum want el_bryanto Apr 2014 #208

Well now you're asking about motives instead of hypocrisy. trotsky Apr 2014 #209

Nods - and you at least have been honest about where you are coming from with regards to believers el_bryanto Apr 2014 #211

No one argued that you needed to abandon your religion skepticscott Apr 2014 #231

"others have told me his replies are nothing but snark and personal attacks" rug Apr 2014 #219

Does make one wonder who these "others" might be Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #369

There was a call-out rule enforced by DU2 moderators: no such rule exists explicitly struggle4progress Apr 2014 #216

As far as I can recall, cbayer has never stated in this forum whether she is an atheist or struggle4progress Apr 2014 #241

It would be beneficial to tell the entire story concerning cbayer's father... trotsky Apr 2014 #248

Like much of the rest of this thread, opinions about cbayer's father seem off-topic struggle4progress Apr 2014 #325

You're Google skills are lacking on this one. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #326

She didn't accuse DUers either. rug Apr 2014 #328

I guess I never saw that thread. Anyone who found her post offensive, of course, was free struggle4progress Apr 2014 #330

By that logic, then... trotsky Apr 2014 #333

Again: there's no point in turning this thread into a free-for-all attack on folk you dislike struggle4progress Apr 2014 #334

I made no reference to any individual in that post. trotsky Apr 2014 #337

This post should not have anything to do with cbayer and she should not have been brought up hrmjustin Apr 2014 #338

You are the one who brought up the topic of "hatred" of cbayer and her father. trotsky Apr 2014 #327

Boy, what a class act you are! Nothing toxic about trotsky is there? Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #415

I don't know why your family was brought up here but it is sad. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #416

It is very sad, but appears to be the usual tactic of last resort. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #419

Thanks. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #420

I don't wonder. I am compelled by the evidence. rug Apr 2014 #418

This message was self-deleted by its author Iggo Apr 2014 #206

He's continuing his vendetta against cbayer, complete with the same misquotes he's always used. rug Apr 2014 #217

It does seem odd to mention cbayer in an OP allegedly discussing struggle4progress Apr 2014 #220

Well stated... rexcat Apr 2014 #196

Why not just self delete the offending post? bravenak Apr 2014 #234

IIRC here's what the hosts have done since December 2011: struggle4progress Apr 2014 #239

OK, to be clear: I'm asking you to resign, and I'm asking the other hosts to persuade you muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #319

You're welcome to do that struggle4progress Apr 2014 #321

This has been an interesting thread and I learned a lot more how DU works goldent Apr 2014 #242

Different group hosts may handle "inappropriate behavior" differently struggle4progress Apr 2014 #243

Or doesn't work? nt mr blur Apr 2014 #341

Are you saying DU doesn't work? rug Apr 2014 #346

I would like to add this thread to the mix Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #283

What are you doing? Rug is not a host of this room! hrmjustin Apr 2014 #284

I am talking about s4p in that thread Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #288

No it was your first paragraph. I thought you were talking about rug. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #289

I can see the confusion Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #290

If you read it you must have taken me off your alleged ignore. rug Apr 2014 #286

the other poster got a hidden post because of what he said. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #294

And, of course, Religion group hosts play no role whatsoever in DU3 jury decisions struggle4progress Apr 2014 #296

Thank God! I certainly would not want to be involved with that. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #298

Well, different people have different senses of humor. Some, for example, struggle4progress Apr 2014 #295

What an odd response all things considered. el_bryanto Apr 2014 #297

I think my #295 is simply a factual statement struggle4progress Apr 2014 #299

Comedy is about timing Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #302

Why on earth do you keep mentioning me? rug Apr 2014 #306

Clearly a jury didn't like the reception Struggle4progress got. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #308

Juries get things wrong quite a bit Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #310

I think he deserved the hide. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #312

If that deserved a hide Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #313

You made a mistake in not alerting on it. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #314

He's still free to alert on it. It's too late to send it to a jury, but Administration says struggle4progress Apr 2014 #317

Complaints about jury decisions should be addressed to administration struggle4progress Apr 2014 #316

I'll save anyone the trouble wondering what the ATA response would be Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #324

To reiterate: Religion group hosts can't do anything about DU3 jury decisiions struggle4progress Apr 2014 #331

This deserves repetition: trotsky Apr 2014 #335

And there are three other hosts you can ask to remove him. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #336

Removing him as a host, and condoning his behavior (as you have done), are two different topics. trotsky Apr 2014 #339

I did not condon what he did. I just don't think he needs to be removed. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #340

Two separate issues. n/t trotsky Apr 2014 #342

Fine. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #343

Says who? rug Apr 2014 #344

I mentioned no one in that thread. Of the twenty-some posts there, about eight consist struggle4progress Apr 2014 #315

See #239 struggle4progress Apr 2014 #300

If you dislike my posts in that thread, you are free to alert, of course struggle4progress Apr 2014 #305

I'M ABANDONING THIS THREAD NOW struggle4progress Apr 2014 #347

The 300 Spartans left 3 days ago. rug Apr 2014 #348

The one thing I am grateful for with this thread... trotsky Apr 2014 #352

OMG, you called believers "Republicans and other right-wingers"! I must start a thread! rug Apr 2014 #353

And he got to kick the thread. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #354

Apparently quitting this thread skepticscott Apr 2014 #356

Oh dear, somehow, we'll have to just muddle through without you. mr blur Apr 2014 #366

And again, you show your blindness, wilful or otherwise, to why you were offensive muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #512

Re: the fate of "Stuggle-4-Progress" vs. psychologist "TM99"?, vs. Democratic Underground host Brettongarcia Apr 2014 #359

Are you accusing TM99 of being Struggle4Progress's sock puppet? hrmjustin Apr 2014 #365

Excuse me? TM99 Apr 2014 #367

Apparently the two of you are not related? Though you have some surprising similarities Brettongarcia Apr 2014 #370

You should self delete that comment. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #371

Honest confusion. "Sock puppet" was not my language Brettongarcia Apr 2014 #373

You need to edit it or self delete. your post implies it is the same person. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #374

You can feel free to alert on the post if you wish. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #379

You want us to step in for s4p you need to ask the top host. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #382

Done Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #387

Your own decision. not mine. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #388

You made it clear it was the only way the hosts would discuss it Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #390

You think S4P's actions are fitting for a forum host? Lordquinton Apr 2014 #405

I gave my answer. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #409

Who did you send this to? hrmjustin Apr 2014 #393

Renew Deal Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #395

He is the head host. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #398

Yeah, I get that. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #403

There is no official rule on it but since he is head host he can do it. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #407

Oh, please let's just be honest here shall we. TM99 Apr 2014 #384

So this is an instance of what people are talking about Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #376

I am a host sir and the other hosts want him to correct this, hrmjustin Apr 2014 #377

That's not your job, sir. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #378

I am not saying we are banning him. I want to see him correct the record. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #380

That's not your job. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #383

It certainly is his job. rug Apr 2014 #385

I am not self deleting anything. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #386

Perhaps you shouldn't have said anything and just alerted Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #389

I don't need your permission to post here. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #392

No you don't Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #394

I will post what I feel I need to. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #396

Best. Typo. Ever. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #400

If you read my posts you will know I never included the word only. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #402

Do you really not remember what you said? Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #404

I gave you my answer. I never said only but mostly. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #408

No one said you did. trotsky Apr 2014 #397

What double standard? hrmjustin Apr 2014 #399

Wait---upthread you mention NUMEROUS that "hosts don't police the threads" Heddi Apr 2014 #421

I as a member asked for a correction. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #422

No, you as a HOST asked for a deletion, and cited OTHER HOSTS as agreeing with you Heddi Apr 2014 #423

we pmed each other. you can ask the other hosts. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #424

So you don't deny that you used your host status incorrectly, knowing full well Heddi Apr 2014 #425

First Off anyone can make points here. I admit that I should not have mentioned my host status but I hrmjustin Apr 2014 #426

No one is saying you can't "make points," but you can't do it under the guise of being a host Heddi Apr 2014 #427

I am done talking to you. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #428

You're awesome. Perfect for hosting a group Heddi Apr 2014 #429

Don't worry. my time as a host will be over soon. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #430

Oh gee. Don't go. Without you, we'd have no one to police the posts you don't like Heddi Apr 2014 #431

I am not joking. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #432

I thought you weren't talking to me anymore Heddi Apr 2014 #433

Beats the hell out of the whining and pissing and moaning in aa group. Leontius Apr 2014 #435

Oh, but pissing and moaning in any other group is okay? Heddi Apr 2014 #436

Oh, come on now... Act_of_Reparation Apr 2014 #437

Took a look at thread titles for page one of interfaith Leontius Apr 2014 #487

What do you care about that? mr blur Apr 2014 #442

For your first question, I don't care just making an observation of the content of your little group Leontius Apr 2014 #484

Nope, no similiarities at all. TM99 Apr 2014 #381

FWIW, I don't think you are a sock puppet Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #391

Except: 1) Lucumi in the US was usually in the form of Santeria; a mix of Lucumi and Catholicism. Brettongarcia Apr 2014 #513

Please stop hijacking other's threads. TM99 Apr 2014 #514

I'm responding briefly to YOUR OWN earlier response Brettongarcia Apr 2014 #515

I'm taking you off ignore for the sole purpose of briefly responding to your OP cbayer Apr 2014 #363

Wow, that's a lot of malarkey to concentrate in one post. trotsky Apr 2014 #364

Let me offer one more word: laconicsax rug Apr 2014 #375

I could offer at least two more words skepticscott Apr 2014 #411

Do you actually think any of that warrants a civil reply? rug Apr 2014 #413

Welcome back! rug Apr 2014 #372

Yo Dawg! Whazzup Heddi Apr 2014 #510

Congratulations! Definitely the most entertaining thread in ages. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #368

Niagara Falls! pinto Apr 2014 #414

I want to let everyone know I have decided to stand down as host of this room. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #434

I am sorry to see you step down as host due to this game. TM99 Apr 2014 #438

Thank you for your kind words. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #441

OH, stop your whining. mr blur Apr 2014 #443

Proving my point and confirming that my described process is pretty TM99 Apr 2014 #445

The sad thing is that you are working on your fifth hide. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #446

I see you are working on improving the tone in this group. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #444

Goblinmonster perhaps it is time you self deleted this thread. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #447

It will drop when nobody replies Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #448

Lol I thought it was monster. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #449

I always go by avatars, too. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #450

Thanks for the correction. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #451

Oh, now you've opened a can of worms... Act_of_Reparation Apr 2014 #465

Yes, I'm sure a lot of people skepticscott Apr 2014 #452

What is it about me that bothers you? hrmjustin Apr 2014 #453

Perhaps you need to recognize that TM99 Apr 2014 #458

Ignore me or don't. I don't care. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #461

I am not ignoring you TM99 Apr 2014 #477

You might have a semblance of a point skepticscott Apr 2014 #463

You have a typo: "the gang of septics". rug Apr 2014 #454

Au contraire, TM99 Apr 2014 #455

Well, you certainly raised the level of civil and rational discourse skepticscott Apr 2014 #460

look at yourself first. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #462

I'm not riding in here on my high horse skepticscott Apr 2014 #464

So that absolves you from civility? hrmjustin Apr 2014 #466

You asked what I don't like about you skepticscott Apr 2014 #468

And your problem is you cry about others being uncivil and insulting when you hrmjustin Apr 2014 #469

Sorry, bullshit skepticscott Apr 2014 #470

I have to remember to bookmark this thread. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #471

Let me try Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #472

Just jumping in to say that yup, that's it. n/t trotsky Apr 2014 #473

I understand your point but I don't agree it is equal on both sides. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #474

I would argue that is just perspective Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #475

She still has my 100 percent backing. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #476

Do you agree with her, that if the evil atheists like me, GM, scott, etc.... trotsky Apr 2014 #478

She never said all atheists. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #479

Neither did he. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #480

Atheists say religious people are bigots all the time here. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #482

So as long as I don't name one, Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #485

That is not what she said. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #489

As GM pointed out, neither did I. trotsky Apr 2014 #481

She never pointed your names out and she did not say all atheists. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #483

Go to the thread and read the post she was replying to. trotsky Apr 2014 #486

stop putting yourself in things. she did not mean you or your friends here hrmjustin Apr 2014 #490

Tell you what. trotsky Apr 2014 #492

You can always nominate another believer. it has to be a believer. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #494

Why? You replaced cbayer. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #496

The host has to be a believer or sympathetic to them. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #497

OK. Cool. So it doesn't have to be a believer. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #500

But belevers have to be comfortable with the person. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #501

I would argue we all need to be comfortable with the person. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #502

You didn't fight him. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #503

Didn't say I did. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #504

Nominate someone else. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #505

xchrom would be at the top of my list. n/t trotsky Apr 2014 #498

nominate him. I am going to start the thread shortly. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #499

These are the kind of gymnastics Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #488

Well it is good to accept one has issues. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #491

Hell yeah! trotsky Apr 2014 #493

Ass kisser. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #495

She'll probably hate you more skepticscott Apr 2014 #508

Lol! hrmjustin Apr 2014 #509

I never said atheists at all, for thst matter, okasha Apr 2014 #506

Well said. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #507

So, Dorian Gray Apr 2014 #439

I think it underlined handily what the Religion Forum is really all about. el_bryanto Apr 2014 #440

Yes it has.... Dorian Gray Apr 2014 #459

This thread is a little rough... goldent Apr 2014 #511

It is interesting that all the punishments you list... trotsky Apr 2014 #516

Yes, crucifixions were meted out by Christians. rug Apr 2014 #517

Does this mean you won't be high-fiving or fist-bumping? goldent Apr 2014 #518

Hooray for not being burned at the stake! trotsky Apr 2014 #519

Your view is rather narrow... rexcat Apr 2014 #520

Well, it was sort of intentionally restricted to goldent Apr 2014 #521

Putting this out of its misery Renew Deal Apr 2014 #522