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muriel_volestrangler

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512. And again, you show your blindness, wilful or otherwise, to why you were offensive
Sat Apr 12, 2014, 08:49 AM
Apr 2014
The second sentence, of course, is standard Rabbinical interpretation of the story. The first clause of the first sentence is historically accurate. Presumably the second clause causes the offense. But it seems to me, that if someone who does not subscribe to a religion, insists on misrepresenting views of those who do subscribe to that religion, in order to score points, that is ugly, and it does not seem to me that those who engage in such trawling for a reaction have much complaint if a reaction results


The first clause may be historically accurate, but it's a red herring. The Abraham and Isaac story appears in the Christian Old Testament as well as the Jewish scriptures. The god it describes telling a parent to kill their child is the same god of the woman in the OP. There's nothing in what AC said that is about Judaism. What's more, AC did not claim that any religion commands child-sacrifice; he described a well-known biblical story of 'God' commanding it - and had acknowledged, without prompting, that there's then a second message saying 'don't do it'.

" if someone who does not subscribe to a religion, insists on misrepresenting views of those who do subscribe to that religion, in order to score points, that is ugly"

They did not misrepresent any view. They described a bible story. The misrepresentation here is what you say. And you are doing it time after time. It is ugly, and this is why we cannot trust you as a host. If you think that someone referencing part of the bible gives you carte blanche to call them anti-semitic, just because that story paints God in a bad light, your judgement is unsound.

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I have a problem with a Religion host [View all] Goblinmonger Apr 2014 OP
my honest feelings are that Heddi Apr 2014 #1
I only start the thread because he's a host. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #2
I completely agree with you, and when I read that post last night Heddi Apr 2014 #5
Here's a summary of all non-archived discussions by Religion group hosts struggle4progress Apr 2014 #53
I find your post ironic. Maedhros Apr 2014 #151
Morning Goblinmonger, the alert and jury function are always an option in this Group as in any other pinto Apr 2014 #3
I have no desire to send them to jury Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #4
Yeah, get that about the room. Most times I like the back and forth, but sometimes... pinto Apr 2014 #8
You could try ATA but I think complaining to Religion group hosts has better prospects of success struggle4progress Apr 2014 #40
Admin is pretty clear hosts get to do what they want Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #43
I clicked on the link and read all the posts in question. thucythucy Apr 2014 #9
You don't "a dog in this fight"? Well, if you say so. mr blur Apr 2014 #12
By "not having a dog in this fight" thucythucy Apr 2014 #23
Just a point on agnosticism... MellowDem Apr 2014 #233
If this were a safe haven and that person not a host Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #25
Yes, interesting rhetoric JNelson6563 Apr 2014 #30
This not being a "safe haven" cuts both ways. thucythucy Apr 2014 #38
Ouch! Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #410
There's no way i'd ever choose to be a host Dorian Gray Apr 2014 #68
I think the problem Goblinmonger has is with the host. The alert function Autumn Apr 2014 #6
I can't imagine why you would be "scared to post in here" struggle4progress Apr 2014 #18
Religion is a terrifying thing to discuss. Autumn Apr 2014 #19
I LOVE Laurel and Hardy. Nt. thucythucy Apr 2014 #27
I didn't know the host status was on that one. Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #7
I wouldn't hold my breath Rob H. Apr 2014 #11
Perhaps some of these links will help you make your case struggle4progress Apr 2014 #15
You are free to contact the other hosts and ask for my removal: IMO the original agreement struggle4progress Apr 2014 #10
Do you really believe this nonsense? Sadly, you probaby do. mr blur Apr 2014 #13
Perhaps you are upset because struggle4progress Apr 2014 #17
You carefully called one person a nazi and the other an anti-semite. Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #14
You are free to contact the other hosts and ask for my removal: IMO the original agreement struggle4progress Apr 2014 #16
You should apologize for those remarks. Arugula Latte Apr 2014 #29
Violating safe havens? Lordquinton Apr 2014 #69
That's not "violating" a safe haven. There are no secret societies on DU. rug Apr 2014 #90
Safe havens are places where posters are supposed to feel safe in posting Lordquinton Apr 2014 #229
People are allowed to read safe havens and link to them. there is no rule against it. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #230
So because there is no rule against it it's not wrong? Lordquinton Apr 2014 #245
That is not true. Several members of AA have come to interfaith and two were banned. I banned one hrmjustin Apr 2014 #250
What I said was true Lordquinton Apr 2014 #401
First of all I was made a host because I post the most ops there and can keep an eye on the room. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #406
Atheists are allowed in interfaith but they can not criticize people of faith. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #412
If you think certain people should not be able to view the A/A group, I'm sure site Administrators struggle4progress Apr 2014 #232
There are also closed facebook sites and a few sites dedicated to monitoring & complaining about DU. rug Apr 2014 #237
And they're not places for gossip, personal attacks and ridicule of other DU groups and members. rug Apr 2014 #235
You shouldn't hate yourself Lordquinton Apr 2014 #244
QED. rug Apr 2014 #247
I want to discuss it in here; we are a community. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #26
Not 'somehow', the connection is plain. AtheistCrusader Apr 2014 #171
Current hosting of this group allows you to trawl for reactions, though there is no guarantee struggle4progress Apr 2014 #172
I pointed out precedent in the source documentation of Abrahamic religions. AtheistCrusader Apr 2014 #175
He's a host of this forum??? Iggo Apr 2014 #20
So what? TM99 Apr 2014 #21
Yes, many of the "liberal" and "progressive" believers here skepticscott Apr 2014 #22
I can always count on you TM99 Apr 2014 #77
You're new here grasshopper, so let me clue you in a wee bit A HERETIC I AM Apr 2014 #126
Yes, I am relatively new here. TM99 Apr 2014 #134
"So what rules of the 'new' DU now allow this meme to resurface?" A HERETIC I AM Apr 2014 #141
OK, I understand. TM99 Apr 2014 #146
HERETIC: Thanks for the background! Brettongarcia Apr 2014 #246
Yeah...looked through that thread....... A HERETIC I AM Apr 2014 #251
Well, looks like things are going OK here. Even staying on the legal side Brettongarcia Apr 2014 #267
Yawn. Been there, done that. skepticscott Apr 2014 #169
Repeatedly and pointlessly. rug Apr 2014 #174
Here is the action that I am going to take. TM99 Apr 2014 #190
You do realize none of that deals with your behavior/attitude Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #207
Really? TM99 Apr 2014 #210
You broke your own vow within 4 hours. Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #212
How so? TM99 Apr 2014 #213
I think I have been dealing with s4p just fine. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #214
Then we have nothing more to directly discuss in this thread. TM99 Apr 2014 #218
Well stated. rug Apr 2014 #215
In other words, you have no intention skepticscott Apr 2014 #238
Interfaith is for everyone. Check out the Group SOP. MADem Apr 2014 #456
I have now done so TM99 Apr 2014 #457
He was informed of the nature of the Interfaith Group skepticscott Apr 2014 #467
I have yet to read an original comment under your name, let alone a civil one. rug Apr 2014 #92
If he weren't a host. I would not have started this thread Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #28
S4p did not call you a Nazi. okasha Apr 2014 #34
Yes. It was all couched in vagueness Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #36
Now that is funny. okasha Apr 2014 #41
Did that really go over your head? Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #44
Nope. okasha Apr 2014 #52
If you think Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #54
Just like the vagueness of the anti-semitism at the end of an article you linked to earlier in an OP Leontius Apr 2014 #66
Here's that thread for those interested: struggle4progress Apr 2014 #67
Just as well the 'Columbus Atheism Examiner' isn't a host on DU, then muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #74
I missed what you are referring to could you give me a post number so I can go back Leontius Apr 2014 #145
There are 2 threads that this OP links to muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #148
Found the thread and S4P did jump to the anti-semitism conclusion wrongly I think. Leontius Apr 2014 #160
We are briefly discussing this earlier OP by Goblinmonger struggle4progress Apr 2014 #152
I don't think you understood my post. TM99 Apr 2014 #78
You know who else didn't like comedies? Act_of_Reparation Apr 2014 #79
OMG! TM99 Apr 2014 #82
I didn't call you a Nazi. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2014 #84
You implied it. TM99 Apr 2014 #87
The point of this thread Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #88
I asked you TM99 Apr 2014 #89
I keep going like always. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #97
It still sounds like TM99 Apr 2014 #125
First of all, there is no group that I have. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #128
Now you just aren't making any sense. TM99 Apr 2014 #137
You keep asking me what I'm going to do Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #143
To answer your questions TM99 Apr 2014 #147
Did I? Act_of_Reparation Apr 2014 #91
This is all you have? TM99 Apr 2014 #103
Yeah, I'm kind of a one-trick pony like that. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2014 #109
Nope. TM99 Apr 2014 #123
The thread you link was hidden by a DU3 jury, somehow randomly selected by the DU3 software struggle4progress Apr 2014 #130
I didn't mean to imply you did the alerting Act_of_Reparation Apr 2014 #157
You might feel better when I tell you that my alerts do not always succeed either struggle4progress Apr 2014 #158
Not particularly Act_of_Reparation Apr 2014 #164
Quick! Start a thread! rug Apr 2014 #93
I agree with those two comments being over the line LostOne4Ever Apr 2014 #24
Any host from any group or forum can post in the Forum & Group Hosts forum, and struggle4progress Apr 2014 #47
Thank you very much! (nt) LostOne4Ever Apr 2014 #50
One qualifier to that-- hosts don't always... TreasonousBastard Apr 2014 #70
To my knowledge, all substantive discussion by the Religion group hosts has occurred struggle4progress Apr 2014 #105
With Religion, that makes sense with all that goes on there, and... TreasonousBastard Apr 2014 #106
Unless you think DU hosting is a religious duty, this sniveling violates this Group's SoP. rug Apr 2014 #31
In the interests of fairness, I should point out that about a week ago struggle4progress Apr 2014 #115
As it is, this thread has become a parade of baboons flashing their asses to see whose is redder. rug Apr 2014 #163
Yes. Unfortunately, it's typical of threads in the Religion Group. Jim__ Apr 2014 #166
Now we know what happens when you combine meta with personality. rug Apr 2014 #167
I thought you brought up trying to change tone last night Heddi Apr 2014 #170
Do a screen shot of the posts after that. rug Apr 2014 #173
Show me posts that *I* made that counter what I posted to you Heddi Apr 2014 #176
Then you should post screenshots of the replies I make to you rug Apr 2014 #177
I have a problem okasha Apr 2014 #32
Your opinion is duly noted and expected. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #33
Which, of course, you weren't. But you were having a hearty chortle over these deaths. rug Apr 2014 #35
I like black humor just fine. okasha Apr 2014 #37
"before you hurt yourself worse" Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #39
It means okasha Apr 2014 #42
Losing credibility with you? Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #46
No one has actually called you a Nazi. okasha Apr 2014 #57
The fact that you are being so supportive Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #58
Just so we're being honest, okasha Apr 2014 #59
Really, I didn't know that. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #62
Don't you mean "implying" you were a Nazi? okasha Apr 2014 #63
Well, your vote is noted. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #65
Let's be clear: what "pretty bad form"? rug Apr 2014 #61
I love how you're being told "YOU weren't called a Nazi...you were compared to one...possibly." Heddi Apr 2014 #45
Go for it! In the name of Science! rug Apr 2014 #48
stating facts is now "striking a pose?" Heddi Apr 2014 #49
Any resemblance between the opinions you stated and facts is coincidental. rug Apr 2014 #51
I can do it. Can you? Can others? More so...will they? Will I? Heddi Apr 2014 #55
We'll see. The starting point is acknowledging it has to stop. rug Apr 2014 #56
Don't bring up any issue to do with LGBT'ers with rug, he has no opinion on them... Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #71
Would you like to be less cryptic? rug Apr 2014 #94
I would like you to be less cryptic... Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #117
Since you haven't answered, I'll be less cryptic: rug Apr 2014 #162
No, I don't have enough information to judge whether you are a homophobe or not. Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #355
FWIW, I thought struggle4progress should have consdiered their position as host muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #60
Thanks for that Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #64
Do you expect the poster, host or no host, who posts stuff like this... Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #72
Charming. That post is actually a TOS violation. Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #75
You're free to alert on that post: it hasn't fallen into the archives yet. It's too late to ask struggle4progress Apr 2014 #111
I know, I alerted on it, and, surprise surprise, it didn't get hidden. n/t Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #118
Perhaps a certain level of reading proficiency should be a requirement for posting at DU struggle4progress Apr 2014 #122
I wasn't the only one who objected to that post, or recognized it for what it was. Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #124
You might feel better when I tell you that my alerts do not always succeed either struggle4progress Apr 2014 #127
Given the context of that thread, I see no problem with the cited post. - n/t Jim__ Apr 2014 #73
Btw, OP jury results PunkinPi Apr 2014 #76
FWIW, the alerter is wrong - Skinner has been pretty clear it's up to the group to agitate muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #99
#115 upthread may be relevant struggle4progress Apr 2014 #121
Ah, you were the atheist who objected to atheist bigotry being called bigotry Fortinbras Armstrong Apr 2014 #80
I believe they feel that they are opposed to a belief not believers el_bryanto Apr 2014 #81
A jury of your peers agreed that your post should be locked. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #83
But YOU were the one who whined about it Fortinbras Armstrong Apr 2014 #85
When did I say that? Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #86
It was clearly implied Fortinbras Armstrong Apr 2014 #119
You have my exact wording. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #129
The ONLY way your alert makes sense would be if no atheist, anywhere were bigoted Fortinbras Armstrong Apr 2014 #357
Just so I'm clear Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #358
I decryed atheist bigotry Fortinbras Armstrong Apr 2014 #360
How have I engaged in an ad hom? Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #361
FA, you've made it clear your concept of "evidence" is weak. trotsky Apr 2014 #362
The religion forum is pretty tribal these days el_bryanto Apr 2014 #95
Is the instance in question Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #96
I don't pay attention to who is a host and who isn't el_bryanto Apr 2014 #100
I think it is horribly disingenuous to say I'm reading into it. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #102
Ah yes - well i've been accused of being disingenuous as well - regularly and repeatedly. el_bryanto Apr 2014 #104
The Religion group has exactly 5 hosts, pursuant to the hosting agreement struggle4progress Apr 2014 #108
So 2 believers 2 atheists and . . . ? nt el_bryanto Apr 2014 #110
Our top host often does not engage in hosting discussions and is primarily available struggle4progress Apr 2014 #112
So the top host would be the one to remove you if it's felt you went too far? nt el_bryanto Apr 2014 #114
Read the hosting agreement, that I linked for you: I don't think it gives the top host struggle4progress Apr 2014 #116
Do you stand by your statement in that other thread, by the way? el_bryanto Apr 2014 #131
See #10 struggle4progress Apr 2014 #133
So in other words you are comfortable suggesting that Goblinmonger is akin to a Nazi? nt el_bryanto Apr 2014 #136
See #10 struggle4progress Apr 2014 #139
Do you have a macro to just paste "See #10." el_bryanto Apr 2014 #140
I'll repaste my response #10 to Goblinmonger here; there's no point in saying it struggle4progress Apr 2014 #142
I agree there's no point in saying the same thing again and again. el_bryanto Apr 2014 #144
You may wish to review the subthread of which Goblinmonger complains: struggle4progress Apr 2014 #149
You forgot one part Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #154
Perhaps a certain level of reading proficiency should be a requirement for posting at DU struggle4progress Apr 2014 #156
Thank you for explaining to me what I already read el_bryanto Apr 2014 #161
And I responded to 10 Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #138
No, I think it does give them freedom to remove you - that's why we wanted them as top host muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #132
See #10 struggle4progress Apr 2014 #135
That reminds me of this one article I love to link LostOne4Ever Apr 2014 #113
Well exactly - and given the moral stance many take against religion el_bryanto Apr 2014 #120
I'm afraid that your perspective is faulty. mr blur Apr 2014 #98
Ah - that's convenient. So your tribe is pretty much blameless and my tribe is pretty much guilty? el_bryanto Apr 2014 #101
As an Atheist myself, my limited interactions with other Atheists on this forum Maedhros Apr 2014 #153
Accurately stated. rug Apr 2014 #165
Well, given the behavior exhibited by other hosts in here... trotsky Apr 2014 #107
I'm a host of this group. ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #150
IIRC we have temporarily banned exactly two people, each twice now, one theist and one anti-theist struggle4progress Apr 2014 #155
I think I have been pretty clear. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #159
You've been very clear. trotsky Apr 2014 #178
. rug Apr 2014 #179
I; think you:re just -- grump'y because I disagree,d with you'r theories) (about punctuation struggle4progress Apr 2014 #188
Yes I agree that the software can take care of the issue. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #168
Who's asking for the banning of a longtime member? Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #183
I never said you did say that. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #185
What do you think about struggle4progress accusing AtheistCrusader of anti-semitism? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #195
I think it is, too. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #197
I think the words could have been more carefully chosen. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #202
The thread was about messages from God; AC brought up a famous biblical example muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #203
Your point is taken but I don't think it was his intention to say that the poster was anti-Semitic. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #204
Maybe not but when I went back and read that thread I think it went to far and does seem Leontius Apr 2014 #221
People make mistakes. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #222
They most certainly do it's called being human. Leontius Apr 2014 #223
The following mechanisms are available at DU3 for handling posts one dislikes: struggle4progress Apr 2014 #225
Considering what I have been called by certain posters in this forum I don't Leontius Apr 2014 #227
Or they Dorian Gray Apr 2014 #236
As Goblinmonger self-describes as struggle4progress Apr 2014 #240
You're a piece of work Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #249
Here are some of the key attributes of being a Christian as I understand it: trotsky Apr 2014 #252
I've noticed that when you do apologize to an atheist or ask to clarify your comments el_bryanto Apr 2014 #253
I'm so sorry to hear that. trotsky Apr 2014 #255
Move on? Are you suggesting, as so many atheist have done, that I leave the religion forum? el_bryanto Apr 2014 #257
Nope, I'm saying that you seem to be disregarding Jesus' teachings. trotsky Apr 2014 #261
thank you for explaining Christianity to me. el_bryanto Apr 2014 #264
What do you think Jesus meant when he said that his followers should... trotsky Apr 2014 #265
You insulted DU Chistians here. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #266
Are you saying you don't think those are key attributes of being a Christian? trotsky Apr 2014 #268
You posted this. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #269
I ask again, what exactly is the insult? trotsky Apr 2014 #270
Your accusing us of being unchristian. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #272
Yet DU Christians routinely claim other people aren't being Christian.. trotsky Apr 2014 #273
Yes it is reasonable to point out a group or person is being hypocritcal but it can be taken hrmjustin Apr 2014 #277
Yes, I am a horrible person and deserve to be treated badly. That is well established. trotsky Apr 2014 #278
No it can be taken as an insult. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #280
So what I say is true and correct, trotsky Apr 2014 #287
No I think you going after the members of this board who are Christians for not being acting hrmjustin Apr 2014 #293
You bet your ass I'm hostile to hypocrites. trotsky Apr 2014 #301
No believers are hostile as well. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #303
Then name them. trotsky Apr 2014 #304
No. I called you out because of what you said. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #307
But you won't call out any DU Christians because of what they've said. trotsky Apr 2014 #309
That is not true. but people I am on good terms with I usually send a pm to. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #311
Like I said, I got it. trotsky Apr 2014 #318
You didn't read what I wrote. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #320
Yup, got it. trotsky Apr 2014 #322
You do that but to be honest I don't care. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #323
Likewise, hrmjustin. trotsky Apr 2014 #329
While I agree I could always improve myself I am a very polite poster. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #332
Like calling us antisemitic? Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #275
As I said I think he should have used different words and you have reason to be upset. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #276
That's not saying it was out of line or unChristian. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #279
How do you know what I said to S4P? hrmjustin Apr 2014 #282
I thought you said he accused you of anti-semitism. When did you shift it to plural? rug Apr 2014 #345
The anti-semitism part is about Atheist Crusader the nazi part is about Goblinmonger. Leontius Apr 2014 #349
Who did he say tortured puppies? rug Apr 2014 #350
It was that big guy with the cat tatoos. Leontius Apr 2014 #351
I don't think you are being nasty and insulting right now - you generally aren't el_bryanto Apr 2014 #271
If you want to go with the tribe meme, then that's all DU is. trotsky Apr 2014 #274
Do you perfectly uphold all of your principals all the time? el_bryanto Apr 2014 #281
I don't think anyone can! trotsky Apr 2014 #291
I didn't say that. el_bryanto Apr 2014 #292
Actually I do find the tribe meme interesting LostOne4Ever Apr 2014 #285
Why do you cite people who never existed? Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #417
I'm sorry that happened. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #259
That is my experience in this room. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #260
Perhaps you could teach us by example. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #254
I'm not the one who claims to be a Christian. trotsky Apr 2014 #256
well it was worth a shot. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #258
I haven't said someone is acting like a Nazi. trotsky Apr 2014 #262
I never said you did. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #263
It occurs to me belatedly okasha Apr 2014 #180
Just so we are clear. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #181
You're a believer - just so you know that taken to extremes can lead to killing children el_bryanto Apr 2014 #182
Who has said that though? Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #184
How demure. rug Apr 2014 #187
Tribalism - your tribe is guilty, my tribe is innocent el_bryanto Apr 2014 #189
That's bull and you know it everyone knows the implications made on every one Leontius Apr 2014 #224
People make mistakes. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #226
We'll end on agreement then. Leontius Apr 2014 #228
Just so we are clear okasha Apr 2014 #186
You want to talk about toxic behavior, okasha? trotsky Apr 2014 #191
Is Okasha the person who said those things? or someone else? nt el_bryanto Apr 2014 #192
She knows. n/t trotsky Apr 2014 #193
I don't - that's why I asked. nt el_bryanto Apr 2014 #194
No, I'm not. okasha Apr 2014 #198
That callout rule is so stupid it boggles the mind el_bryanto Apr 2014 #199
No, it's about the inconsistency. trotsky Apr 2014 #200
Are you opposed to toxic behavior? Or are you fine with it? el_bryanto Apr 2014 #201
Quite honestly, it's to be expected. trotsky Apr 2014 #205
And I'd like to see certain people stop pretending that all atheists in this forum want el_bryanto Apr 2014 #208
Well now you're asking about motives instead of hypocrisy. trotsky Apr 2014 #209
Nods - and you at least have been honest about where you are coming from with regards to believers el_bryanto Apr 2014 #211
No one argued that you needed to abandon your religion skepticscott Apr 2014 #231
"others have told me his replies are nothing but snark and personal attacks" rug Apr 2014 #219
Does make one wonder who these "others" might be Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #369
There was a call-out rule enforced by DU2 moderators: no such rule exists explicitly struggle4progress Apr 2014 #216
As far as I can recall, cbayer has never stated in this forum whether she is an atheist or struggle4progress Apr 2014 #241
It would be beneficial to tell the entire story concerning cbayer's father... trotsky Apr 2014 #248
Like much of the rest of this thread, opinions about cbayer's father seem off-topic struggle4progress Apr 2014 #325
You're Google skills are lacking on this one. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #326
She didn't accuse DUers either. rug Apr 2014 #328
I guess I never saw that thread. Anyone who found her post offensive, of course, was free struggle4progress Apr 2014 #330
By that logic, then... trotsky Apr 2014 #333
Again: there's no point in turning this thread into a free-for-all attack on folk you dislike struggle4progress Apr 2014 #334
I made no reference to any individual in that post. trotsky Apr 2014 #337
This post should not have anything to do with cbayer and she should not have been brought up hrmjustin Apr 2014 #338
You are the one who brought up the topic of "hatred" of cbayer and her father. trotsky Apr 2014 #327
Boy, what a class act you are! Nothing toxic about trotsky is there? Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #415
I don't know why your family was brought up here but it is sad. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #416
It is very sad, but appears to be the usual tactic of last resort. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #419
Thanks. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #420
I don't wonder. I am compelled by the evidence. rug Apr 2014 #418
This message was self-deleted by its author Iggo Apr 2014 #206
He's continuing his vendetta against cbayer, complete with the same misquotes he's always used. rug Apr 2014 #217
It does seem odd to mention cbayer in an OP allegedly discussing struggle4progress Apr 2014 #220
Well stated... rexcat Apr 2014 #196
Why not just self delete the offending post? bravenak Apr 2014 #234
IIRC here's what the hosts have done since December 2011: struggle4progress Apr 2014 #239
OK, to be clear: I'm asking you to resign, and I'm asking the other hosts to persuade you muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #319
You're welcome to do that struggle4progress Apr 2014 #321
This has been an interesting thread and I learned a lot more how DU works goldent Apr 2014 #242
Different group hosts may handle "inappropriate behavior" differently struggle4progress Apr 2014 #243
Or doesn't work? nt mr blur Apr 2014 #341
Are you saying DU doesn't work? rug Apr 2014 #346
I would like to add this thread to the mix Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #283
What are you doing? Rug is not a host of this room! hrmjustin Apr 2014 #284
I am talking about s4p in that thread Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #288
No it was your first paragraph. I thought you were talking about rug. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #289
I can see the confusion Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #290
If you read it you must have taken me off your alleged ignore. rug Apr 2014 #286
the other poster got a hidden post because of what he said. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #294
And, of course, Religion group hosts play no role whatsoever in DU3 jury decisions struggle4progress Apr 2014 #296
Thank God! I certainly would not want to be involved with that. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #298
Well, different people have different senses of humor. Some, for example, struggle4progress Apr 2014 #295
What an odd response all things considered. el_bryanto Apr 2014 #297
I think my #295 is simply a factual statement struggle4progress Apr 2014 #299
Comedy is about timing Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #302
Why on earth do you keep mentioning me? rug Apr 2014 #306
Clearly a jury didn't like the reception Struggle4progress got. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #308
Juries get things wrong quite a bit Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #310
I think he deserved the hide. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #312
If that deserved a hide Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #313
You made a mistake in not alerting on it. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #314
He's still free to alert on it. It's too late to send it to a jury, but Administration says struggle4progress Apr 2014 #317
Complaints about jury decisions should be addressed to administration struggle4progress Apr 2014 #316
I'll save anyone the trouble wondering what the ATA response would be Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #324
To reiterate: Religion group hosts can't do anything about DU3 jury decisiions struggle4progress Apr 2014 #331
This deserves repetition: trotsky Apr 2014 #335
And there are three other hosts you can ask to remove him. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #336
Removing him as a host, and condoning his behavior (as you have done), are two different topics. trotsky Apr 2014 #339
I did not condon what he did. I just don't think he needs to be removed. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #340
Two separate issues. n/t trotsky Apr 2014 #342
Fine. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #343
Says who? rug Apr 2014 #344
I mentioned no one in that thread. Of the twenty-some posts there, about eight consist struggle4progress Apr 2014 #315
See #239 struggle4progress Apr 2014 #300
If you dislike my posts in that thread, you are free to alert, of course struggle4progress Apr 2014 #305
I'M ABANDONING THIS THREAD NOW struggle4progress Apr 2014 #347
The 300 Spartans left 3 days ago. rug Apr 2014 #348
The one thing I am grateful for with this thread... trotsky Apr 2014 #352
OMG, you called believers "Republicans and other right-wingers"! I must start a thread! rug Apr 2014 #353
And he got to kick the thread. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #354
Apparently quitting this thread skepticscott Apr 2014 #356
Oh dear, somehow, we'll have to just muddle through without you. mr blur Apr 2014 #366
And again, you show your blindness, wilful or otherwise, to why you were offensive muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #512
Re: the fate of "Stuggle-4-Progress" vs. psychologist "TM99"?, vs. Democratic Underground host Brettongarcia Apr 2014 #359
Are you accusing TM99 of being Struggle4Progress's sock puppet? hrmjustin Apr 2014 #365
Excuse me? TM99 Apr 2014 #367
Apparently the two of you are not related? Though you have some surprising similarities Brettongarcia Apr 2014 #370
You should self delete that comment. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #371
Honest confusion. "Sock puppet" was not my language Brettongarcia Apr 2014 #373
You need to edit it or self delete. your post implies it is the same person. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #374
You can feel free to alert on the post if you wish. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #379
You want us to step in for s4p you need to ask the top host. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #382
Done Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #387
Your own decision. not mine. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #388
You made it clear it was the only way the hosts would discuss it Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #390
You think S4P's actions are fitting for a forum host? Lordquinton Apr 2014 #405
I gave my answer. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #409
Who did you send this to? hrmjustin Apr 2014 #393
Renew Deal Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #395
He is the head host. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #398
Yeah, I get that. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #403
There is no official rule on it but since he is head host he can do it. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #407
Oh, please let's just be honest here shall we. TM99 Apr 2014 #384
So this is an instance of what people are talking about Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #376
I am a host sir and the other hosts want him to correct this, hrmjustin Apr 2014 #377
That's not your job, sir. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #378
I am not saying we are banning him. I want to see him correct the record. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #380
That's not your job. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #383
It certainly is his job. rug Apr 2014 #385
I am not self deleting anything. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #386
Perhaps you shouldn't have said anything and just alerted Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #389
I don't need your permission to post here. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #392
No you don't Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #394
I will post what I feel I need to. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #396
Best. Typo. Ever. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #400
If you read my posts you will know I never included the word only. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #402
Do you really not remember what you said? Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #404
I gave you my answer. I never said only but mostly. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #408
No one said you did. trotsky Apr 2014 #397
What double standard? hrmjustin Apr 2014 #399
Wait---upthread you mention NUMEROUS that "hosts don't police the threads" Heddi Apr 2014 #421
I as a member asked for a correction. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #422
No, you as a HOST asked for a deletion, and cited OTHER HOSTS as agreeing with you Heddi Apr 2014 #423
we pmed each other. you can ask the other hosts. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #424
So you don't deny that you used your host status incorrectly, knowing full well Heddi Apr 2014 #425
First Off anyone can make points here. I admit that I should not have mentioned my host status but I hrmjustin Apr 2014 #426
No one is saying you can't "make points," but you can't do it under the guise of being a host Heddi Apr 2014 #427
I am done talking to you. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #428
You're awesome. Perfect for hosting a group Heddi Apr 2014 #429
Don't worry. my time as a host will be over soon. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #430
Oh gee. Don't go. Without you, we'd have no one to police the posts you don't like Heddi Apr 2014 #431
I am not joking. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #432
I thought you weren't talking to me anymore Heddi Apr 2014 #433
Beats the hell out of the whining and pissing and moaning in aa group. Leontius Apr 2014 #435
Oh, but pissing and moaning in any other group is okay? Heddi Apr 2014 #436
Oh, come on now... Act_of_Reparation Apr 2014 #437
Took a look at thread titles for page one of interfaith Leontius Apr 2014 #487
What do you care about that? mr blur Apr 2014 #442
For your first question, I don't care just making an observation of the content of your little group Leontius Apr 2014 #484
Nope, no similiarities at all. TM99 Apr 2014 #381
FWIW, I don't think you are a sock puppet Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #391
Except: 1) Lucumi in the US was usually in the form of Santeria; a mix of Lucumi and Catholicism. Brettongarcia Apr 2014 #513
Please stop hijacking other's threads. TM99 Apr 2014 #514
I'm responding briefly to YOUR OWN earlier response Brettongarcia Apr 2014 #515
I'm taking you off ignore for the sole purpose of briefly responding to your OP cbayer Apr 2014 #363
Wow, that's a lot of malarkey to concentrate in one post. trotsky Apr 2014 #364
Let me offer one more word: laconicsax rug Apr 2014 #375
I could offer at least two more words skepticscott Apr 2014 #411
Do you actually think any of that warrants a civil reply? rug Apr 2014 #413
Welcome back! rug Apr 2014 #372
Yo Dawg! Whazzup Heddi Apr 2014 #510
Congratulations! Definitely the most entertaining thread in ages. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #368
Niagara Falls! pinto Apr 2014 #414
I want to let everyone know I have decided to stand down as host of this room. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #434
I am sorry to see you step down as host due to this game. TM99 Apr 2014 #438
Thank you for your kind words. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #441
OH, stop your whining. mr blur Apr 2014 #443
Proving my point and confirming that my described process is pretty TM99 Apr 2014 #445
The sad thing is that you are working on your fifth hide. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #446
I see you are working on improving the tone in this group. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #444
Goblinmonster perhaps it is time you self deleted this thread. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #447
It will drop when nobody replies Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #448
Lol I thought it was monster. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #449
I always go by avatars, too. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #450
Thanks for the correction. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #451
Oh, now you've opened a can of worms... Act_of_Reparation Apr 2014 #465
Yes, I'm sure a lot of people skepticscott Apr 2014 #452
What is it about me that bothers you? hrmjustin Apr 2014 #453
Perhaps you need to recognize that TM99 Apr 2014 #458
Ignore me or don't. I don't care. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #461
I am not ignoring you TM99 Apr 2014 #477
You might have a semblance of a point skepticscott Apr 2014 #463
You have a typo: "the gang of septics". rug Apr 2014 #454
Au contraire, TM99 Apr 2014 #455
Well, you certainly raised the level of civil and rational discourse skepticscott Apr 2014 #460
look at yourself first. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #462
I'm not riding in here on my high horse skepticscott Apr 2014 #464
So that absolves you from civility? hrmjustin Apr 2014 #466
You asked what I don't like about you skepticscott Apr 2014 #468
And your problem is you cry about others being uncivil and insulting when you hrmjustin Apr 2014 #469
Sorry, bullshit skepticscott Apr 2014 #470
I have to remember to bookmark this thread. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #471
Let me try Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #472
Just jumping in to say that yup, that's it. n/t trotsky Apr 2014 #473
I understand your point but I don't agree it is equal on both sides. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #474
I would argue that is just perspective Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #475
She still has my 100 percent backing. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #476
Do you agree with her, that if the evil atheists like me, GM, scott, etc.... trotsky Apr 2014 #478
She never said all atheists. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #479
Neither did he. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #480
Atheists say religious people are bigots all the time here. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #482
So as long as I don't name one, Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #485
That is not what she said. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #489
As GM pointed out, neither did I. trotsky Apr 2014 #481
She never pointed your names out and she did not say all atheists. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #483
Go to the thread and read the post she was replying to. trotsky Apr 2014 #486
stop putting yourself in things. she did not mean you or your friends here hrmjustin Apr 2014 #490
Tell you what. trotsky Apr 2014 #492
You can always nominate another believer. it has to be a believer. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #494
Why? You replaced cbayer. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #496
The host has to be a believer or sympathetic to them. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #497
OK. Cool. So it doesn't have to be a believer. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #500
But belevers have to be comfortable with the person. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #501
I would argue we all need to be comfortable with the person. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #502
You didn't fight him. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #503
Didn't say I did. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #504
Nominate someone else. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #505
xchrom would be at the top of my list. n/t trotsky Apr 2014 #498
nominate him. I am going to start the thread shortly. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #499
These are the kind of gymnastics Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #488
Well it is good to accept one has issues. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #491
Hell yeah! trotsky Apr 2014 #493
Ass kisser. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #495
She'll probably hate you more skepticscott Apr 2014 #508
Lol! hrmjustin Apr 2014 #509
I never said atheists at all, for thst matter, okasha Apr 2014 #506
Well said. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #507
So, Dorian Gray Apr 2014 #439
I think it underlined handily what the Religion Forum is really all about. el_bryanto Apr 2014 #440
Yes it has.... Dorian Gray Apr 2014 #459
This thread is a little rough... goldent Apr 2014 #511
It is interesting that all the punishments you list... trotsky Apr 2014 #516
Yes, crucifixions were meted out by Christians. rug Apr 2014 #517
Does this mean you won't be high-fiving or fist-bumping? goldent Apr 2014 #518
Hooray for not being burned at the stake! trotsky Apr 2014 #519
Your view is rather narrow... rexcat Apr 2014 #520
Well, it was sort of intentionally restricted to goldent Apr 2014 #521
Putting this out of its misery Renew Deal Apr 2014 #522
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