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In reply to the discussion: Why the Universe Obviously Has a Creator (and Why Some Atheists Refuse to Even Consider It) [View all]laconicsax
(14,860 posts)48. Here's what you got wrong:
And that the universe is not explainable as a random event.
Actually, it is, and has been for some time.
Here's a lovely fallacy:
But this is not the raving of mad men...it goes way back in history....before Christ...in the philosophies of the east...in Tibetan Buddhism and the Gidhas of India.
Neither the age of an idea nor its geographic origin are related to the correctness of the idea.
But I guess you can dismiss them all if you think that we are so much smarter than anyone in the past.
We may not any smarter than previous generations, but we're definitely better informed. We know things about every part of reality that were unimaginable to people living all those millennia ago.
Want some more? Ok:
And that perhaps time itself is an illusion and so creation is something that never happened at all. And that matter itself is an illusion and that the true reality is just too much for our puny brains.
We know that the universe had a beginning, that matter exists, and have for some time. There's even been research into the area of the universe being an illusion, and that research has shown that the universe does actually exist.
Your intentions may be good, but you may want to educate yourself on what's happened in the last hundred or so years in science because many of the developments provide verifiable answers your 'deep' philosophical questions. If you really want to have a deep, intelligent discussion on a subject, it's best to learn as much as you can about that subject. Some of your speculations read like, "and perhaps it will never be known how much area there is below a curve" or "maybe it's impossible to know where babies come from."
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Why the Universe Obviously Has a Creator (and Why Some Atheists Refuse to Even Consider It) [View all]
ellisonz
Mar 2012
OP
"Anyone want to count the fallacies and factual errors?" I'd rather count fire ants, but sure.
saras
Mar 2012
#15
Well, if it's old and a "philosophy of the east," it must be unquestionably true.
laconicsax
Mar 2012
#34
I suggest that you don't understand the basics because you say terrifically ignorant things.
laconicsax
Mar 2012
#58
Actually there is a good argument that it is highly probable that we are part
Warren Stupidity
Mar 2012
#74
I like that one. Odds of anything being exactly the way it is are astronomical.
DirkGently
Mar 2012
#9
Whatever assumptions he used, the universe is in no way fine-tuned for life.
laconicsax
Mar 2012
#23
"God" is a piss-poor answer because it replaces one unknown with another and stops further inquiry.
laconicsax
Mar 2012
#69
So you expect an "answer" to the question of creation to be found by science? n/t
ellisonz
Mar 2012
#77
Yes, you do realize that everything we know about the physical world...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2012
#79
Your clumsy anology is rather inaccurate, and God isn't an answer, but a roadblock to the answer...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2012
#78
An omnipotent god would create all possible simultations within all possible universes
FarCenter
Mar 2012
#75