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59. So, should those that are bigoted against religious people also check their

Reply to AtheistCrusader (Reply #57)

Mon May 5, 2014, 10:10 AM

May 2014

bigotry at the door?

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Opinion on this video? The Third Way: Homosexuality and the Catholic Church [View all] Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 OP

It was just pointed out here in our very own religion forum Heddi Apr 2014 #1

What a vile little video Warpy Apr 2014 #2

Does tolerance and inclusiveness of a variety of religious beliefs fit into cbayer Apr 2014 #4

Bigots don't. Warpy Apr 2014 #5

That wasn't really the question. cbayer Apr 2014 #6

However, that is the answer. Warpy Apr 2014 #7

I don't like it because it doesn't answer my question. cbayer Apr 2014 #8

Your question was answered in my first post Warpy Apr 2014 #9

Not if their belief includes bigotry. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #50

Do you think one can be bigoted against the religious? cbayer May 2014 #54

Against people, yes. Against ideas, no. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #57

So, should those that are bigoted against religious people also check their cbayer May 2014 #59

Yeah. Fortunately I'm not one of those people. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #60

I am not conflating people with ideas, though the distinction cbayer May 2014 #62

Within that narrow qualification, yes. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #64

I am presuming that the narrow qualification you reference cbayer May 2014 #66

I'm not going to play word games. In the context of this thread, it is not wrong, or bigotry, to AtheistCrusader May 2014 #67

I am not playing words games, only trying to come to some agreement cbayer May 2014 #68

Well, membership isn't actually a predictor. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #69

Absolutely agree - membership is not a predictor. cbayer May 2014 #70

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My Thoughts: Back to square one. David says... at the end... "I'm NOT 'gay'; I'm *Catholic*." Smarmie Doofus Apr 2014 #3

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So what did you think about the video? octoberlib Apr 2014 #13

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Oh, dear. Methinks you are not going to last long around here. cbayer Apr 2014 #17

I thought it was Catholic propaganda. octoberlib Apr 2014 #18

Where to start malokvale77 Apr 2014 #10

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Instead of beating around the proverbial burning bush William769 Apr 2014 #16

The truth has set you free! William769 Apr 2014 #21

It was gone before I could toy with it a bit. malokvale77 Apr 2014 #24

We are very good at taking out the trash in a timely manner. William769 Apr 2014 #25

Yes you are (nt) malokvale77 Apr 2014 #28

Boo, I didn't even get a chance to respond. That's no fun. Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #26

When I smell that kind of heaping pile of stink... malokvale77 Apr 2014 #27

Ehh, whenever I feel like really arguing with people, I go on Reddit, Patheos... Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #29

Somethings make my "polite" disappear malokvale77 Apr 2014 #30

Yeah, sometimes I really have to restrain myself from saying "Fuck you" to some of the... Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #31

It ain't easy... malokvale77 Apr 2014 #32

Oh, you are such a delight malokvale77 Apr 2014 #22

Can I get a readers digest version? LostOne4Ever Apr 2014 #19

Also, some of them put out personal theories as to why they "suffer" same sex attraction... Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #20

... LostOne4Ever Apr 2014 #23

It's all part and parcel of accepting the idea that homosexuality is a 'sin'. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #61

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Response Robert_Caritas May 2014 #34

Welcome to DU. rug May 2014 #35

Its rather difficult to separate the two when the RCC actively campaigns to restrict the rights... Humanist_Activist May 2014 #38

Nevertheless, they are two different things. rug May 2014 #39

Yes, then I grew out of it... Humanist_Activist May 2014 #42

Thanks Robert_Caritas May 2014 #48

If the RCC didn't spend so much time and money campaigning/lobbying on this AtheistCrusader May 2014 #63

Oh, I'm sure many here would have issues with the RCC regardless. rug May 2014 #75

Welcome to DU gopiscrap May 2014 #36

Thanks Robert_Caritas May 2014 #47

You're welcome gopiscrap May 2014 #49

For most human beings, sexuality and physical intimacy are necessary... trotsky May 2014 #40

And exactly what do you have to support your claim that "inside is raw, ugly hatred"? rug May 2014 #41

Your Church treats homosexuality as a pathology, that is the ugly truth. Humanist_Activist May 2014 #44

As did psychiatry until 1986. rug May 2014 #45

The American Psychiatric Ass'n removed it from their list of mental disorders in 1973, actually Rob H. May 2014 #58

It was in Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, rug May 2014 #73

Sorry, no Rob H. May 2014 #80

Read your own excerpt. It was not considered a paraphila after 1973 but it remained a " disorder". rug May 2014 #81

Oh, come on Rob H. May 2014 #84

"Ego-dystonic homosexuality" was not a "term". It was a psychiatric diagnosis. rug May 2014 #85

Fair enough Rob H. May 2014 #86

No but it shows again you can't wrap a rotten fish in newspaper and expect it will no longer stink. rug May 2014 #87

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here nt Rob H. May 2014 #88

The 1973 reclassification was expected to result in a more enlightened diagnosis. rug May 2014 #89

Ah, gotcha Rob H. May 2014 #90

"Do you think inside the APA's erroneous diagnosis was "raw, ugly hatred"" AtheistCrusader May 2014 #65

Add ignorance to the list, doesn't excuse the others, of course. n/t Humanist_Activist May 2014 #71

How many medical diagnoses do you think are fueled by raw, ugly hatred? rug May 2014 #74

Quite a lot probably were. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #76

A couple of thoughts, so far... Humanist_Activist May 2014 #43

Thanks, for your reply. Robert_Caritas May 2014 #46

I will say that the biggest issue I have with this whole argument is this... Humanist_Activist May 2014 #53

I get that, Robert_Caritas May 2014 #82

Marriage is neither natural, nor was it always monogamous, nor is it from your God... Humanist_Activist May 2014 #83

That was a poor response to my post. Robert_Caritas May 2014 #91

Asking for evidence for your claims is a poor response? n/t Humanist_Activist May 2014 #92

"I feel that this goes to the crux of the problems I have with religion in general, it interferes Sarah Ibarruri May 2014 #51

I am going to again challenge you on your statement that "religion in this country cbayer May 2014 #55

As is your "belief" that religion does more good than harm. trotsky May 2014 #72

Maybe it will get better. (sigh) nt Sarah Ibarruri May 2014 #77

It's getting better, Sarah. cbayer May 2014 #78

I didn't watch the video... MellowDem May 2014 #93

Sorry about the late reply. Robert_Caritas May 2014 #94

Actually Goacher May 2014 #95

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That presents a big problem then Plantaganet May 2014 #99

Woah... Plantaganet May 2014 #101

The Bible is explicitly bigoted... MellowDem May 2014 #96

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I'm just a heretic. hunter May 2014 #37

I am not even sure these are anechdotes............ auntsue May 2014 #52

I haven't been able to watch the video, but I sure cbayer May 2014 #56

What a repulsive video... rexcat May 2014 #79

Queer Catholics and 'The Third Way' HuffPost-Gay Voices JPatrickRedmond May 2014 #102