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In reply to the discussion: Why the Universe Obviously Has a Creator (and Why Some Atheists Refuse to Even Consider It) [View all]zeemike
(18,998 posts)55. Well I take that back...it is explainable
And many have given the explanation....but so is the concept of god...but that of course cannot be considered if you believe the first one....the flat earth theory was an explanation too.
The universe is far to vast and far to complex for an explanation that explains it all....and random theory does not do that...and neither does a god creator.
Neither the age of an idea nor its geographic origin are related to the correctness of the idea
And I made no such claims...what I said is that it is not like you portray it as the ravings of mad men but has a long standing tradition in philosophy.
We may not any smarter than previous generations, but we're definitely better informed. We know things about every part of reality that were unimaginable to people living all those millennia ago.
Really?...Every part of reality?...is that so?...now who is making claims to things they cannot show with facts.
We know that the universe had a beginning, that matter exists, and have for some time. There's even been research into the area of the universe being an illusion, and that research has shown that the universe does actually exist.
It is the height of arrogance to claim you know something that cannot be known....and if you could prove the beginning you could not prove what was before the beginning....and if there was no before then that would prove time was indeed an illusion and that matter was too sense it came from nothing and nowhere.
And why is that so hard to believe when you can believe string theory...which is another way to explain the unexplainable.
But you were doing real good till the last paragraph...where you suggested I believe what I believe because I am uneducated and if I would only educate myself to your level I would understand it all....and the parting shot suggesting that people like me don't understand even the basics of our world...
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Why the Universe Obviously Has a Creator (and Why Some Atheists Refuse to Even Consider It) [View all]
ellisonz
Mar 2012
OP
"Anyone want to count the fallacies and factual errors?" I'd rather count fire ants, but sure.
saras
Mar 2012
#15
Well, if it's old and a "philosophy of the east," it must be unquestionably true.
laconicsax
Mar 2012
#34
I suggest that you don't understand the basics because you say terrifically ignorant things.
laconicsax
Mar 2012
#58
Actually there is a good argument that it is highly probable that we are part
Warren Stupidity
Mar 2012
#74
I like that one. Odds of anything being exactly the way it is are astronomical.
DirkGently
Mar 2012
#9
Whatever assumptions he used, the universe is in no way fine-tuned for life.
laconicsax
Mar 2012
#23
"God" is a piss-poor answer because it replaces one unknown with another and stops further inquiry.
laconicsax
Mar 2012
#69
So you expect an "answer" to the question of creation to be found by science? n/t
ellisonz
Mar 2012
#77
Yes, you do realize that everything we know about the physical world...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2012
#79
Your clumsy anology is rather inaccurate, and God isn't an answer, but a roadblock to the answer...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2012
#78
An omnipotent god would create all possible simultations within all possible universes
FarCenter
Mar 2012
#75