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In reply to the discussion: Opinion on this video? The Third Way: Homosexuality and the Catholic Church [View all]"Homosexuality" and "ego-dystonic homosexuality" aren't terms that can be used interchangeably nor is each a synonym for the other.
Removal from the DSM
In 1973, the weight of empirical data, coupled with changing social norms and the development of a politically active gay community in the United States, led the Board of Directors of the American Psychiatric Association to remove homosexuality from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM). Some psychiatrists who fiercely opposed their action subsequently circulated a petition calling for a vote on the issue by the Association's membership. That vote was held in 1974, and the Board's decision was ratified.
Subsequently, a new diagnosis, ego-dystonic homosexuality, was created for the DSM's third edition in 1980. Ego dystonic homosexuality was indicated by: (1) a persistent lack of heterosexual arousal, which the patient experienced as interfering with initiation or maintenance of wanted heterosexual relationships, and (2) persistent distress from a sustained pattern of unwanted homosexual arousal.
This new diagnostic category, however, was criticized by mental health professionals on numerous grounds. It was viewed by many as a political compromise to appease those psychiatrists mainly psychoanalysts who still considered homosexuality a pathology. Others questioned the appropriateness of having a separate diagnosis that described the content of an individual's dysphoria. They argued that the psychological problems related to ego-dystonic homosexuality could be treated as well by other general diagnostic categories, and that the existence of the diagnosis perpetuated antigay stigma.
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In 1986, the diagnosis was removed entirely from the DSM. The only vestige of ego dystonic homosexuality in the revised DSM-III occurred under Sexual Disorders Not Otherwise Specified, which included persistent and marked distress about one's sexual orientation (American Psychiatric Association, 1987; see Bayer, 1987, for an account of the events leading up to the 1973 and 1986 decisions).
In 1973, the weight of empirical data, coupled with changing social norms and the development of a politically active gay community in the United States, led the Board of Directors of the American Psychiatric Association to remove homosexuality from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM). Some psychiatrists who fiercely opposed their action subsequently circulated a petition calling for a vote on the issue by the Association's membership. That vote was held in 1974, and the Board's decision was ratified.
Subsequently, a new diagnosis, ego-dystonic homosexuality, was created for the DSM's third edition in 1980. Ego dystonic homosexuality was indicated by: (1) a persistent lack of heterosexual arousal, which the patient experienced as interfering with initiation or maintenance of wanted heterosexual relationships, and (2) persistent distress from a sustained pattern of unwanted homosexual arousal.
This new diagnostic category, however, was criticized by mental health professionals on numerous grounds. It was viewed by many as a political compromise to appease those psychiatrists mainly psychoanalysts who still considered homosexuality a pathology. Others questioned the appropriateness of having a separate diagnosis that described the content of an individual's dysphoria. They argued that the psychological problems related to ego-dystonic homosexuality could be treated as well by other general diagnostic categories, and that the existence of the diagnosis perpetuated antigay stigma.
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In 1986, the diagnosis was removed entirely from the DSM. The only vestige of ego dystonic homosexuality in the revised DSM-III occurred under Sexual Disorders Not Otherwise Specified, which included persistent and marked distress about one's sexual orientation (American Psychiatric Association, 1987; see Bayer, 1987, for an account of the events leading up to the 1973 and 1986 decisions).
They're plainly not the same thing. (Emphases added by me.)
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Opinion on this video? The Third Way: Homosexuality and the Catholic Church [View all]
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2014
OP
I'm not going to play word games. In the context of this thread, it is not wrong, or bigotry, to
AtheistCrusader
May 2014
#67
My Thoughts: Back to square one. David says... at the end... "I'm NOT 'gay'; I'm *Catholic*."
Smarmie Doofus
Apr 2014
#3
Ehh, whenever I feel like really arguing with people, I go on Reddit, Patheos...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2014
#29
Yeah, sometimes I really have to restrain myself from saying "Fuck you" to some of the...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2014
#31
Also, some of them put out personal theories as to why they "suffer" same sex attraction...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2014
#20
It's all part and parcel of accepting the idea that homosexuality is a 'sin'.
AtheistCrusader
May 2014
#61
Its rather difficult to separate the two when the RCC actively campaigns to restrict the rights...
Humanist_Activist
May 2014
#38
If the RCC didn't spend so much time and money campaigning/lobbying on this
AtheistCrusader
May 2014
#63
And exactly what do you have to support your claim that "inside is raw, ugly hatred"?
rug
May 2014
#41
Your Church treats homosexuality as a pathology, that is the ugly truth.
Humanist_Activist
May 2014
#44
The American Psychiatric Ass'n removed it from their list of mental disorders in 1973, actually
Rob H.
May 2014
#58
Read your own excerpt. It was not considered a paraphila after 1973 but it remained a " disorder".
rug
May 2014
#81
No but it shows again you can't wrap a rotten fish in newspaper and expect it will no longer stink.
rug
May 2014
#87
"Do you think inside the APA's erroneous diagnosis was "raw, ugly hatred""
AtheistCrusader
May 2014
#65
I will say that the biggest issue I have with this whole argument is this...
Humanist_Activist
May 2014
#53
Marriage is neither natural, nor was it always monogamous, nor is it from your God...
Humanist_Activist
May 2014
#83
"I feel that this goes to the crux of the problems I have with religion in general, it interferes
Sarah Ibarruri
May 2014
#51