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cbayer

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25. I found Hitchens fascinating to watch when he was doing the interview circuits.

Thu May 8, 2014, 05:12 PM

May 2014

He had a dark and razor like wit that was pretty captivating.

I reject his hostility towards religion in general and believers in particular, as I reject some of his other positions.

But I would never say he was boring.

Dawkins, otoh, bores me to tears.

I find Myers a fun read, though I often disagree with him.

And while I haven't seen much of your buddy Dennett, I have enjoyed what I have seen.

I think they are often put up as the "horsemen" because they kicked open the doors, even though their philosophies and manner differ tremendously.

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Why I am Not an Atheist: Better Apathetic Godlessness than Illiberal Scientism [View all] rug May 2014 OP

The mid-naughties? Do you think that's a typo or he meant that, lol? cbayer May 2014 #1

Author claims he doesn't care enough about atheism Shivering Jemmy May 2014 #2

He's not rejecting atheism. He's rejecting this: rug May 2014 #4

That was not my takeaway from what I did read. cbayer May 2014 #5

Lol, looks like some kind of change. rug May 2014 #3

Straw men, red herrings, R US! immoderate May 2014 #6

Thank you for your thoughtful critique. rug May 2014 #7

Yeah. You beat me to it. immoderate May 2014 #10

I was listening to Laura Ingraham on the way back from jail. rug May 2014 #11

Laura Ingraham was in jail? immoderate May 2014 #13

No, rug was in jail. cbayer May 2014 #14

Well, she said she's subbing for O'Reilly tonight so that might be an improvement. rug May 2014 #15

He lost me at "scientism". longship May 2014 #8

I don't like cartoon rendering either. rug May 2014 #9

Why do you object to the term scientism? cbayer May 2014 #12

"Scientism" is always pejorative. longship May 2014 #18

I agree that it is pejorative and should be used only to describe those who cbayer May 2014 #21

I would agree with that. longship May 2014 #24

I found Hitchens fascinating to watch when he was doing the interview circuits. cbayer May 2014 #25

An interesting thing about Hitchens... longship May 2014 #28

He reminded me of Dorothy Parker in some ways - cbayer May 2014 #30

My favorite Hitchens quip: longship May 2014 #31

I also saw Hitchens say some things that I believe the network wished they had caught... cbayer May 2014 #32

"scientistic?" mike_c May 2014 #16

It's a word with a recognized definition. cbayer May 2014 #17

it's a word for a nonsensical understanding of science and how it works.... mike_c May 2014 #20

I agree with that definition. cbayer May 2014 #23

Science and the scientific method are about facts and reality, not about how we wish things were. Manifestor_of_Light May 2014 #19

Yep. Being told "I am right and you are wrong" on issues like religion really is annoying. cbayer May 2014 #26

You mean like this? cleanhippie May 2014 #33

So the author is apathetic therefore he writes about his apathy intaglio May 2014 #22

Some people cannot think in terms outside of religion. phil89 May 2014 #29

Poorly researched. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #27

The beginning of the article wasn't very interesting to me. ZombieHorde May 2014 #34

It's hard work. rug May 2014 #35

What's hard work? lol nt ZombieHorde May 2014 #36

I was sympathizing. rug May 2014 #37

Ha! I'm not feeling very patient today. nt ZombieHorde May 2014 #38

In britain, religion has no political standing? AtheistCrusader May 2014 #40

When I lived in the UK Dorian Gray May 2014 #41

No, it's quite correct. It has no political standing here. mr blur May 2014 #42

Insofar as Mr Wells shares some of my views, I consider him a wise man, struggle4progress May 2014 #39

His descriptions of New Atheism TM99 May 2014 #43