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ellisonz

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37. Yes.

Thu Mar 8, 2012, 04:16 PM

Mar 2012

Not to mention the text is without context. The meaning in this case somewhat depends on the translation used:

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
Servants, obey your Masters of the body in all things, not outwardly as those who please men, but with a pure heart and in the awe of THE LORD JEHOVAH.

http://bible.cc/colossians/3-22.htm

The message is that while you may be in bondage on Earth to men, in spirit you are beholden to God. It is not an endorsement of slavery. I suggest you do some reading in black liberation theology.

The overall intent is to shock, that is assholery.

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Atheist Billboard Offends Some African-Americans [View all] rug Mar 2012 OP

Just proves that... TreasonousBastard Mar 2012 #1

So they were mocking believers skepticscott Mar 2012 #2

C'mon, scott. Everyone knows that quotation is the crudest form of mockery. laconicsax Mar 2012 #3

But also one of the most effective skepticscott Mar 2012 #14

Your Bible must come with pictures. rug Mar 2012 #8

Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #13

The picture, which is the offense, did not come from the Bible. rug Mar 2012 #19

Are you saying the pro-slavery quote is not offensive? nt ZombieHorde Mar 2012 #59

Your characterization is wrong. rug Mar 2012 #61

I see, this exerpt is directed toward some other kind of slavery. nt Deep13 Mar 2012 #117

It was writte 1800 years before Jamestown. rug Mar 2012 #118

Wait, really? Deep13 Mar 2012 #120

"what is the problem here?" rug Mar 2012 #123

Well 2000 years ago, when the book was written, slavery humblebum Mar 2012 #15

Missing entirely the point... TreasonousBastard Mar 2012 #16

'Scuse me? Warpy Mar 2012 #4

Explain that to the people who were offended by it... TreasonousBastard Mar 2012 #17

It was less tactful than I would have done Warpy Mar 2012 #22

I dare anyone to find a non offensive bible verse. Kalidurga Mar 2012 #5

1 Corinthians 13, 4-7 cbayer Mar 2012 #7

Matthew 5 rug Mar 2012 #9

Sure. ellisonz Mar 2012 #23

O course they were offended. kwassa Mar 2012 #6

They're not SUPPOSED to GET PAST it. They're supposed to GET it. saras Mar 2012 #10

You don't win people to your cause by insulting them. kwassa Mar 2012 #11

So recognizing and pointing out skepticscott Mar 2012 #12

no. you don't get it. kwassa Mar 2012 #18

Well if "the Bible supports slavery and always has", then why were the slaves led humblebum Mar 2012 #20

I'll see your jerry, and raise ya deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #26

It was also the norm when the books were written and compiled 2000 or so years ago. And nowhere humblebum Mar 2012 #27

So it's advocated except for Jews. Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #28

I don't see it as being condoned or not condoned in that era. It was the humblebum Mar 2012 #32

So what can we throw out of the bible and what can't we? Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #35

You tell me. Last I knew, slavery had been abolished and Christians humblebum Mar 2012 #39

This is attacking the PA 'Year of the Bible' resolution muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #79

Two words: not smart. nt humblebum Mar 2012 #84

The resolution looks close to breaking the 1st amendment muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #86

It's not a question of 1st amendment rights or Separation of C&S, It's humblebum Mar 2012 #87

Why is it bigotry? (nt) muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #88

When a very sensitive issue is directed toward a racial group and their religion is also humblebum Mar 2012 #89

It's about what the bible says, not 'the religion of African Americans' muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #90

"If the picture wasn't used, then it wouldn't be connected with African Americans" - BUT humblebum Mar 2012 #91

But you still haven't explained why you apply the term 'bigotry' muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #92

It is bigotry in two ways: first, by targeting African Americans with such a humblebum Mar 2012 #95

It does condone slavery; in 1 Timothy 6, it says some Christians are slave owners muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #102

No, it is the intentional misrepresentation that makes me uncomfortable. Nowhere does humblebum Mar 2012 #103

Do you understand the meaning of 'condone'? muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #107

Nothing was being purposely overlooked at that time. Slavery was humblebum Mar 2012 #109

"You should not impose today's standards in trying to understand ancient cultures" muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #110

I wasn't aware that they were trying to force the acceptance of slavery on anyone. humblebum Mar 2012 #111

Your intentional obtuseness has become very boorish. cleanhippie Mar 2012 #112

Excuse me!? You seem to be engaged in exactly that. However, humblebum Mar 2012 #113

Please, just stop. cleanhippie Mar 2012 #114

So it was OK for the time deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #33

So show me the law that said we are to own slaves or one against not owning slaves. humblebum Mar 2012 #40

as ussual, you are the one making the claim deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #43

Nice dodge, but no you are the one making the claim. nt humblebum Mar 2012 #44

actually the billboard is deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #45

No sir. The focus of my previous response was to your assertion that a humblebum Mar 2012 #46

What would jesus NOT do... deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #47

Spinmaster. nt humblebum Mar 2012 #48

you said it deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #49

Then there would have been no reason to exhort abolition in that period, humblebum Mar 2012 #50

no reason? deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #51

Definitely a spinmaster, deaky. humblebum Mar 2012 #53

a non-answer deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #55

Hardly a non-answer. Completely pointless is exactly what you have resorted to. You merely humblebum Mar 2012 #56

You can almost see the topic from where you've run to deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #60

You just keep on spinning don't you? Trying to cover up and justify such humblebum Mar 2012 #62

and you keep running from the topic deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #96

deacon, you are using reason, logic, and critical thought. Those things do not exist for him cleanhippie Mar 2012 #97

It's funny you mention Poe... deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #98

This possibility has come up in conversation before. cleanhippie Mar 2012 #99

very insightful, thank you deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #101

The US Constitution supported slavery when written 200 years ago Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #100

Thank you, kwassa Number23 Mar 2012 #82

WTF??!! Atheists are supposed to be doing the right thing with this billboard??!! Ecumenist Mar 2012 #21

"They're lucky they didn't get the asses cracked" - WTF? cleanhippie Mar 2012 #52

"I threaten with violence"?! You don't know what the hell you're talking about Ecumenist Mar 2012 #63

I got it from your EXACT words that YOU posted, in quotations above. cleanhippie Mar 2012 #66

"There is no need to advocate" - now that's rich. The topic at hand humblebum Mar 2012 #67

Thank you for your opinion. cleanhippie Mar 2012 #68

You know, "clean", I'm going to talk to you in a way that you MIGHT understand.... Ecumenist Mar 2012 #70

Ahh, more anger and personal attacks. cleanhippie Mar 2012 #73

it is clear what you are saying. seabeyond Mar 2012 #75

A Jury Voted To Let This Post Stand. cleanhippie Mar 2012 #77

So funny! ZombieHorde Mar 2012 #57

Yeah, racism is so hilarious. Try walking through a black neighborhood with Ecumenist Mar 2012 #64

What is the sign's commentary on race? ZombieHorde Mar 2012 #65

Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #69

Wow, from violence to personal attacks. cleanhippie Mar 2012 #71

Assholes. n/t ellisonz Mar 2012 #24

Yep, the Christian bible advocates slavery and that is very assholish. Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #29

No. ellisonz Mar 2012 #31

So it's the image. Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #36

Yes. ellisonz Mar 2012 #37

I'm not too happy with this one deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #25

Not a huge fan of the Sea Kittens campaign, but I get it. Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #30

exactly deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #34

Seems to be happening more often these days, too. humblebum Mar 2012 #41

do tell deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #42

I agree with African Americans, this billboard is racist!! Obamacare Mar 2012 #38

What is the billboard's comment on race? nt ZombieHorde Mar 2012 #58

Thank you, Obamacare.. I think that certain people are dieliberately trying to be obtuse Ecumenist Mar 2012 #72

It isn't an atheist billboard. moobu2 Mar 2012 #54

Moobu, please understand what I'm about to ask..Why don't you feel that it's NOT Ecumenist Mar 2012 #74

i think this is one of the most hurtfully offensive threads that i have seen in a very long time seabeyond Mar 2012 #76

I agree Son of Gob Mar 2012 #78

I don't think it offended African-American groups because it was atheist LeftishBrit Mar 2012 #80

I can't believe there are those defending this billboard. Sal316 Mar 2012 #81

Thank you, Sal316 Number23 Mar 2012 #83

The only explanation of why it might be offensive I can see is LeftistBrit's in #80 muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #85

Here's the thing. Sal316 Mar 2012 #93

But we need to know why it's offensive muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #94

I can agree with being told why it's offensive. Sal316 Mar 2012 #106

Did English-language Bibles from the 1860s Boojatta Mar 2012 #116

I am having a lot of trouble understanding the current debate over this. cbayer Mar 2012 #104

Well, an explanation that it's because children can't understand the context does help muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #105

I suggest that it might be harder for those rarely confronted with bigotry to readily recognize it, cbayer Mar 2012 #108

It might not be racist. The billboard is merely highly offensive. kwassa Mar 2012 #127

Um, were they mad because the Bible says that... Deep13 Mar 2012 #115

They? rug Mar 2012 #119

No, I'm refering to those who claim to speak for it... Deep13 Mar 2012 #121

Like State Rep. Ronald G. Waters, chairman of the Pennsylvania Legislative Black Caucus? cbayer Mar 2012 #122

Bingo. Deep13 Mar 2012 #130

Not sure what you are saying here. cbayer Mar 2012 #131

Oh they must not be true Scotsmen. rug Mar 2012 #124

At least not true African-American Scotsmen. kwassa Mar 2012 #125

Do you even know what that means? Deep13 Mar 2012 #129

What baseless supposition. kwassa Mar 2012 #133

What do you assume? Boojatta Mar 2012 #135

and who would "they" be? kwassa Mar 2012 #126

Asked and answered. Deep13 Mar 2012 #128

No, you haven't. kwassa Mar 2012 #132

So, any answer? Deep13 Mar 2012 #134

Given that the billboard was Boojatta Mar 2012 #136

But if the Bible can be improved or updated... Deep13 Mar 2012 #137