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In reply to the discussion: Meet an atheist ... who believes in God [View all]longship
(40,416 posts)The definition of atheist is one who does not believe there are gods. So there cannot be -- by definition -- an atheist who believes in God.
The whole thing is very silly and invites one to play rhetoric games. I prefer to take words at their standard definitions and not play those games.
I am an atheist, which does not mean that I am 100% sure that there are no gods, only that I find the evidence far from compelling. Like Richard Dawkins -- sorry Dawkins haters -- that might make me an agnostic atheist. But since I know of no atheist who ascribes to the straw man absolute surety, I suspect that all atheists are pretty much agnostic to some extent.
Words have meanings. Atheism means one does not accept the existence of gods. Agnostic means lack of knowledge. No matter what people say, all theists are agnostic about the gods they believe in. Try nailing them down some day. What will inevitably happen is that they will play the transcendent God card, "He works in mysterious ways." Once one does that, why don't they drop the other shoe and admit their agnosticism. That's right... There's Hell to pay for that.
So, I reject the redefinition of atheist to include god believers. But that's what some religious people have attempted to do basically forever. Consider all the made up atheist death bed confessions. They are all wrong. Why would a believer who holds the Decalogue so dear bear false witness like that? That's why I do not take such exercises seriously, let alone claims that such and such an atheist believes in gods.
Sorry for the rant, my friends.
No vote from me.