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92. Number of deaths by year, excepting measles, pertussis, influenza, and tuberculosis

Mon Jun 16, 2014, 06:25 PM

Jun 2014

1925 06 = 07 - 01
1926 15 = 39 - 23 - 01
1927 07 = 15 - 06 - 01 - 01
1928 11 = 14 - 02 - 01
1929 07 = 16 - 03 - 04 - 02

1930 05 = 09 - 01 - 01 - 02
1931 05 = 11 - 06
1932 08 = 24 - 15 - 01
1933 24 = 32 - 05 - 01 - 02
1934 24 = 30 - 04 - 02
1935 08 = 16 - 05 - 01
1936 22 = 48 - 22 - 03 - 01
1937 20 = 26 - 05 - 01
1938 17 = 26 - 04 - 03 - 02
1939 25

1940 26 = 34 - 05 - 03
1941 25 = 32 - 05 - 02
1942 38 = 48 - 02 - 06 - 02
1943 26 = 50 - 12 - 10 - 02
1944 22 = 40 - 12 - 06
1945 29 = 34 - 01 - 04
1946 42 = 49 - 06 - 01
1947 28 = 52 - 18 - 04 - 02
1948 12 = 25 - 01 - 10 - 02
1949 13 = 24 - 09

1950 14 = 18 - 03 - 01
1951 11
1952 04 = 07 - 02 - 01
1953 03
1954 09 = 10 - 01
1955 05 = 06 - 01
1956 08
1957 03
1958 01
1959 02

1960 01

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Tuam mother and baby home: the trouble with the septic tank story [View all] struggle4progress Jun 2014 OP

So 'Some of the 796 children's remains are in a FORMER septic tank' AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #1

What we know is: (1) Catherine Corless obtained death certificates struggle4progress Jun 2014 #2

... A preliminary examination of the site is likely to involve testing .. struggle4progress Jun 2014 #3

That's a possibility. But the septic tank was in use at the turn of the century. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #24

Totally. It's really no big deal now. trotsky Jun 2014 #10

They need to be focusing on how those women and children lived Warpy Jun 2014 #4

The institution seems to have been a county institution: though administered struggle4progress Jun 2014 #5

The truth is that women who got pregnant outside marriage were so despised Warpy Jun 2014 #32

The money was 10 shillings per head per year, I think, struggle4progress Jun 2014 #51

Why am I not surprised skepticscott Jun 2014 #6

Feel free to post anything that actually adds to our understanding of the story struggle4progress Jun 2014 #7

One point: until enforcement of child labor laws, a workhouse could be a home for children too. Brettongarcia Jun 2014 #12

Yes, the county poorhouse was revamped in the 1920s to specialize it struggle4progress Jun 2014 #17

Further remarks ... Brettongarcia Jun 2014 #21

The Tuam tank: another myth about evil Ireland struggle4progress Jun 2014 #8

Ireland has recently been good about exposing its bishops; several have recently resigned Brettongarcia Jun 2014 #13

That seems to be a different story, since Derry is not so near to Tuam struggle4progress Jun 2014 #18

But both are in greater "Ireland," the subject named in one of your posts Brettongarcia Jun 2014 #22

After 1921, Tuam and Derry were in entirely separate countries struggle4progress Jun 2014 #67

Why assume it was murder? YarnAddict Jun 2014 #79

These children were dumped in an unmarked grave. Warren Stupidity Jun 2014 #9

No, Warren, it's not unbelievable at all to see this posted. trotsky Jun 2014 #11

What's even worse than that: this post was expected... Act_of_Reparation Jun 2014 #14

They've used that one before, remember? trotsky Jun 2014 #15

Gotta love that circular logic Act_of_Reparation Jun 2014 #16

Well, that seems a�curious reaction struggle4progress Jun 2014 #19

your google splatter is not curious at all. Warren Stupidity Jun 2014 #20

Well, that settles it, then. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2014 #23

Yes, s4p seems to be wielding the skepticscott Jun 2014 #38

It seems your eagerness, to attribute to me things that I never said, struggle4progress Jun 2014 #44

everyone does it pokerfan Jun 2014 #55

Struggle4Progress raised a good point above. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #25

Waiting on all the facts doesn't help the "cause", you may be shunned or worse. Leontius Jun 2014 #43

Based on the initial reporting, I think it was a reasonable conclusion, but the facts have AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #46

I think it may be unwise to draw many conclusions until the cbayer Jun 2014 #26

Thanks for posting this. Good information is hard to come by. Jim__ Jun 2014 #27

The apologetics in this thread are sickening. Goblinmonger Jun 2014 #28

What is actually sickening okasha Jun 2014 #29

You are absolutely right, okasha. trotsky Jun 2014 #31

Given that this was broken by The Mail, sensation at the expense of investigation is unsurprising. rug Jun 2014 #30

Where to look for burials in the Tuam Union Workhouse? struggle4progress Jun 2014 #33

Update on the Tuam Famine Burials struggle4progress Jun 2014 #34

... The workhouse was outside Tuam on the Dublin Road and during the famine there were nearly 2,800 struggle4progress Jun 2014 #35

Six County Galway Men Suffered Death Penalty struggle4progress Jun 2014 #36

Well at least the criminals got coffins and a formal burial. trotsky Jun 2014 #37

You may want to think twice before calling them "criminals" if you visit there: struggle4progress Jun 2014 #40

It is just sick that you would try and distract from the story here. trotsky Jun 2014 #49

What you call distracting from the story, I consider an effort to find the story struggle4progress Jun 2014 #50

Of course you would. trotsky Jun 2014 #52

Perhaps you will find this helpful struggle4progress Jun 2014 #53

Bless your heart! n/t trotsky Jun 2014 #54

See #115 downthread struggle4progress Jun 2014 #119

You make me sick to my stomach. n/t trotsky Jun 2014 #120

You raised the question of coffins in your post #37; I provided some info in #115 struggle4progress Jun 2014 #122

Link to contemporary news clippings about the home struggle4progress Jun 2014 #39

Some reporting on Tuam story 'mistaken' struggle4progress Jun 2014 #41

Neglect and death of 800 kids in Galway happened in plain sight struggle4progress Jun 2014 #42

you've google splattered your own thread. Warren Stupidity Jun 2014 #45

I've learned something by looking around: struggle4progress Jun 2014 #47

"... In the first half of the 20th century Ireland had one of the worst infant mortality rates struggle4progress Jun 2014 #48

And the rate in the home when run by the Bon Secours order was 30% to 50% intaglio Jun 2014 #129

If one uses the following website to convert pounds sterling to US dollars struggle4progress Jun 2014 #130

Let's take your apologist crap and destroy it intaglio Jun 2014 #131

The Tuam home was not a religious institution: it was a county institution, struggle4progress Jun 2014 #132

Oh, so the participation of the Bon Secours order was secular? intaglio Jun 2014 #133

Regarding maternal death rates at the Tuam home: struggle4progress Jun 2014 #134

That's why I used the average intaglio Jun 2014 #136

The figures given in the news report for 1932 -- 135 children and 24 mothers -- struggle4progress Jun 2014 #135

As I pointed out and you have ignored intaglio Jun 2014 #137

It is certainly possible that the vast majority of mothers were able to leave, but struggle4progress Jun 2014 #139

I doubt your account of Catholic teaching in Ireland regarding the burial struggle4progress Jun 2014 #138

... The Irish Catholic Bishops Conference ... In a statement .. said: struggle4progress Jun 2014 #56

Burial records pose challenge for inquiry into mother-and-baby homes struggle4progress Jun 2014 #57

And the Gish Gallop just rolls on and on and on... n/t trotsky Jun 2014 #58

More like a Goolgle Gallop. cleanhippie Jun 2014 #59

Wow, way to defend another atrocity in a long long list of seemingly indefensible atrocities. beam me up scottie Jun 2014 #60

? struggle4progress Jun 2014 #61

I'm unable watch videos so you'll have to use your big boy words if you wish to communicate. beam me up scottie Jun 2014 #62

bmus!!! trotsky Jun 2014 #63

Hi :) beam me up scottie Jun 2014 #64

Well as you can see, some of the names may change, some may not, trotsky Jun 2014 #65

I see you've developed quite a tolerance. beam me up scottie Jun 2014 #66

Here�s the letter giving state approval of Tuam mother and baby home struggle4progress Jun 2014 #68

A 37pp list with name, DOD, age, and COD can be downloaded struggle4progress Jun 2014 #69

Number of deaths by year struggle4progress Jun 2014 #70

Number of deaths by year, excepting measles, pertussis, influenza, and tuberculosis struggle4progress Jun 2014 #92

Deaths with premature birth listed among causes of death struggle4progress Jun 2014 #94

Inquests were held into these two deaths: struggle4progress Jun 2014 #71

Marasmus is noted in these 18 cases: struggle4progress Jun 2014 #72

Your noble and tireless efforts to excuse any possible role the teachings of the RCC played trotsky Jun 2014 #73

Deaths with measles listed as cause of death, or among other causes, by year struggle4progress Jun 2014 #74

What do you think of the church's official canon law... trotsky Jun 2014 #75

I'm not aware of any relation that might have to measles struggle4progress Jun 2014 #86

I am. trotsky Jun 2014 #87

Deaths with pertussis or whooping cough listed as cause of death, or among other causes, by year struggle4progress Jun 2014 #76

"To have death rates of 30%-50% in mother-and-baby homes in Tuam, Cork, and Westmeath..." trotsky Jun 2014 #77

If you have information on the number of residents at Tuam each year, then struggle4progress Jun 2014 #88

"To have death rates of 30%-50% in mother-and-baby homes in Tuam, Cork, and Westmeath..." trotsky Jun 2014 #90

18 children died of hunger at Tuam mother and baby home trotsky Jun 2014 #78

Google Gallop ought to be a sport. rug Jun 2014 #80

These cases are enumerated in my #72 upthread: struggle4progress Jun 2014 #82

Yes - marasmus = severe malnutrition. trotsky Jun 2014 #83

Deaths with influenza listed as cause of death, or among other causes, by year struggle4progress Jun 2014 #81

Hundreds attend vigil to remember Tuam babies trotsky Jun 2014 #84

The challenger is making a move on the outside. rug Jun 2014 #91

Deaths with tuberculosis listed as cause of death, or among other causes, by year struggle4progress Jun 2014 #85

Mother and baby home horror: "There was a secret room of doomed babies who never grew up" trotsky Jun 2014 #89

Beats horse with The Mirror, loses two furlongs. rug Jun 2014 #93

Overview struggle4progress Jun 2014 #95

Thanks for posting the information goldent Jun 2014 #101

It might be worthwhile learning why struggle4progress Jun 2014 #103

Yes, brilliant and factual. LOL trotsky Jun 2014 #105

So this is all OK with the theists here? Goblinmonger Jun 2014 #96

What do you have against information? Have you read the links? rug Jun 2014 #97

Is what OK? struggle4progress Jun 2014 #98

He asks, feigning obtuseness. Goblinmonger Jun 2014 #99

There doesn't seem to be any evidence that 800 dead babies are in a septic tank struggle4progress Jun 2014 #100

So that they were buried in an unmarked mass grave is ok as long as it's not a septic tank? beam me up scottie Jun 2014 #102

I am drawn again to the comparison with the presidential election of 2004. trotsky Jun 2014 #104

What happened to those babies before they were buried? beam me up scottie Jun 2014 #106

And why the much higher death rates at these religious "homes" for unwed mothers? trotsky Jun 2014 #107

If marking unmarked Irish graves is your thing, knock yourself out struggle4progress Jun 2014 #109

Sickening indeed. trotsky Jun 2014 #108

And he limps through the backfield staring wanly at the finish line. rug Jun 2014 #110

This atheist thinks that S4Ps information helps to clarify the issue. Jim__ Jun 2014 #111

Of course they can. okasha Jun 2014 #112

Your vicious and baseless attacks are disgusting, okasha. trotsky Jun 2014 #113

Yes, by all means, let's get that full airing of the facts. trotsky Jun 2014 #114

Contract for coffins struggle4progress Jun 2014 #115

A solicitation for a contract proves absolutely nothing. trotsky Jun 2014 #121

No, I don't know how the remains were handled: #118 downthread describes struggle4progress Jun 2014 #123

The Galway Horror Part II struggle4progress Jun 2014 #116

Casting a fresh eye on the Tuam controversy struggle4progress Jun 2014 #117

Tuam: New understanding struggle4progress Jun 2014 #118

Archaeology, the Tuam Workhouse & St. Mary's Mother & Baby Home struggle4progress Jun 2014 #124

Associated Press Apologizes for Its Coverage of the Irish Orphanage Story struggle4progress Jun 2014 #125

+1 rug Jun 2014 #126

Good for AP. okasha Jun 2014 #128

Extent of child deaths in Dublin home revealed struggle4progress Jun 2014 #127