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In reply to the discussion: Bob Jones University told rape victims to repent and look for ‘root sin’ that caused their attack [View all]AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)"In no way do I think they are morally culpable for the decisions of the larger organization, particularly if they have absolutely no say in those decisions."
The RCC lobbies with dollars given to the church by the members. Pays lawyers with dollars given to the church by members.
The RCC uses the 'weight' of it's membership when lobbying legislators to move one way or another on a particular issue.
Membership is not zero-cost and has an impact on issues the individual member may either not care about, or explicitly disapprove of.
"There are groups of catholics who have formed to fight for particular changes."
Yes, and we've discussed pastors/individual churches taking a stand on these issues, getting chucked wholesale out of the RCC.
"and before someone is "encouraged""
I said, specifically in the case of a top-down authoritarian org, they are under no obligation to stay if they find a church that reflects their values. Authoritarian entities like the RCC are by-design resistant to change 'from within'.
I never said they had to leave. I never said I demanded they do so. I said
"The only way for the religious left to change a 'faith' that includes doctrine of the sort I mentioned, really, is to leave it and find greener pastures in keeping with their faith."
That's a statement about effectiveness, not a demand or a decree.