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In reply to the discussion: Town bans pagan temple after finding out its not Christian [View all]struggle4progress
(126,652 posts)58. One question will be whether the activities are church or business
Contrary to the view often expressed in this forum, you can't just conduct business-like activities and claim exemption from the usual laws, such as tax laws, by declaring yourself a church
... Certain characteristics are generally attributed to churches. These attributes of a church have been developed by the IRS and by court decisions. They include: distinct legal existence; recognized creed and form of worship; definite and distinct ecclesiastical government; formal code of doctrine and discipline; distinct religious history; membership not associated with any other church or denomination; organization of ordained ministers; ordained ministers selected after completing prescribed courses of study; literature of its own; established places of worship; regular congregations; regular religious services; Sunday schools for the religious instruction of the young; schools for the preparation of its ministers. The IRS generally uses a combination of these characteristics, together with other facts and circumstances, to determine whether an organization is considered a church for federal tax purposes ... Unlike churches, religious organizations that wish to be tax exempt generally must apply to the IRS for tax-exempt status unless their gross receipts do not normally exceed $5,000 annually ... http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p1828.pdf
Just because he says it's a church, doesn't mean the tax authorities would consider it that. I discussed his beliefs and services pages because the questions of having "recognized creed and form of worship; .. formal code of doctrine and discipline; .. regular religious services" and so on, are relevant to the question of whether he has a church
... Whether or not a church is involved in an activity that could result in it owing <unrelated business income tax> is based upon a three-part test (all three have to be present):
1. Is the activity generally considered a trade or business? This usually means that the activity involves providing the sale of goods and services in exchange for payment ...
2. Is the activity regularly carried on? Most church bake sales occur on certain designated weekends, and accordingly are not viewed as being regularly carried on ...
3. Is the activity substantially related to an exempt purpose? If the activity does not contribute in an important way to the exempt purposes of the church, it could lead to tax liability ... http://churchexecutive.com/archives/does-the-church-bake-sale-threaten-your-tax-exempt-status
1. Is the activity generally considered a trade or business? This usually means that the activity involves providing the sale of goods and services in exchange for payment ...
2. Is the activity regularly carried on? Most church bake sales occur on certain designated weekends, and accordingly are not viewed as being regularly carried on ...
3. Is the activity substantially related to an exempt purpose? If the activity does not contribute in an important way to the exempt purposes of the church, it could lead to tax liability ... http://churchexecutive.com/archives/does-the-church-bake-sale-threaten-your-tax-exempt-status
A red flag here is that he calls his operation "Temple and Store" and provides it a webpages primarily dedicated to sales
One might distinguish between sales, substantially related to an exempt purpose, and other sales. I mentioned the bat's blood and graveyard dirt as potentially falling into the first category, whereas it seems harder to argue that pagan-themed bumperstickers, clothing, jewelry, CDs, and mugs fall into the first category
I mentioned the Buddha statue because it is completely unclear from his beliefs-page whether selling Buddha statues is substantially related to an exempt purpose
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Silly boy, did he forget he is in America where intolerant christian assholes run everything?
randys1
Jun 2014
#1
Not to interrupt your chucklefest, but which DUer are you passive-aggressively calling out this time
rug
Jun 2014
#17
Agreed, even if not proven in this. The ISIS and Boko Harum actions aren't about religion, either.
freshwest
Jun 2014
#22
Exactly. A lot is blamed on religion that religion has nothing to do with.
Louisiana1976
Jun 2014
#34
It diverts attention from motivations of all who oppose or support. Strip it to the basic intent.
freshwest
Jun 2014
#36
yes it turns out that religion has no influence at all on people's behavior.
Warren Stupidity
Jun 2014
#37
" to elect only those who will stand firm doing the will of God and not their will. "
beam me up scottie
Jun 2014
#19
The knee jerk responses by people who can't read an article are pretty hillarious
Heddi
Jun 2014
#12
Is anyone besides High Priest Betram Dahl claiming the alderman said "Your ‘God isn’t my God’"?
rug
Jun 2014
#16
I don't know why people keep posting stuff about religious discrimination in the Religion forum.
beam me up scottie
Jun 2014
#26
It does seem the Victory Worship Center is directly across the street from him
struggle4progress
Jun 2014
#23
3 of us are going to the City Council meeting on Monday to figure this out too. Know the HP, not in
Hestia
Jun 2014
#52
I will definitely bring the info back - there is so much "stuff" being bandied about
Hestia
Jun 2014
#54
He is trying to do both things - store & temple - and believe it or not, they are not mutually
Hestia
Jun 2014
#57
Seems to me like the elected officials are trying to hide behind some technicalities to prevent
hrmjustin
Jun 2014
#30
The first amendment does not cover commercial activity so if the city says no store because of
Leontius
Jun 2014
#45
Y'all are so welcome - I know everyone wanted to really know what is going on and there is
Hestia
Jun 2014
#68
It might be a matter of public record in Arkansas: maybe the SoS or AG
struggle4progress
Jun 2014
#69