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59. "the confines of Logical Empiricism"

Sun Mar 11, 2012, 11:18 AM

Mar 2012

Just out of curiosity, would you prefer your medical doctor, lawyer, or accountant to be "confined to Logical Empiricism," or is it OK if they just "believe" in stuff in order to cure your illnesses, defend you in court, or manage your finances?

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Miley Cyrus angers Christians for embracing science [View all] cleanhippie Mar 2012 OP

Now there is one of the towering figures of worldly wisdom! humblebum Mar 2012 #1

Envy is a deadly sin. n/t cleanhippie Mar 2012 #3

But she is 100% correct here, science backs her up completely Bjorn Against Mar 2012 #8

Hey Bjorn, prepare to be accused of being "narrow minded" for not using "other ways of knowing". cleanhippie Mar 2012 #9

"science backs her up completely" - I'm not sure how you arrived at that conclusion. humblebum Mar 2012 #11

Agreed. Neither science or religion is capable of that. cleanhippie Mar 2012 #12

You are entitled to your opinion, but I do not share it. nt humblebum Mar 2012 #14

I didn't expect you to. cleanhippie Mar 2012 #16

The difference between my utilization of humblebum Mar 2012 #18

Bwahahahaha! cleanhippie Mar 2012 #20

Yes, your ability to engage in healthy philosophic debate is well known. humblebum Mar 2012 #22

Thanks for the recognition. cleanhippie Mar 2012 #25

So I lied. nt humblebum Mar 2012 #50

Wow, admitting you are a liar. I'm impressed. cleanhippie Mar 2012 #62

"All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" Romans 3:23 humblebum Mar 2012 #63

Yeah, its me, not you. You just keep telling yourself that. cleanhippie Mar 2012 #67

Hippie, after all imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. humblebum Mar 2012 #70

Do you think someone is imitating you? cleanhippie Mar 2012 #75

"the confines of Logical Empiricism" _ed_ Mar 2012 #59

And, who said they were confined to those limitations. some are, some aren't, but speaking humblebum Mar 2012 #61

She is not talking about the existence of a deity Bjorn Against Mar 2012 #13

Some of us consider Jesus deity. nt humblebum Mar 2012 #15

But her statement was not about proving the existence of Jesus Bjorn Against Mar 2012 #23

Who said she did? Two words: "forget Jesus." nt humblebum Mar 2012 #48

So? When you talk about science you should forget Jesus because speaking on Jesus is not science. Bjorn Against Mar 2012 #52

Yeh. OK. humblebum Mar 2012 #53

And some don't. By the way, Lawrence Krauss is Jewish. 2ndAmForComputers Mar 2012 #45

And that fact has relevance how? nt humblebum Mar 2012 #49

And saying that stars died so we can live implies that stars are alive humblebum Mar 2012 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author cleanhippie Mar 2012 #19

All stars eventually die, but that in no way implies they were alive in a biological sense Bjorn Against Mar 2012 #21

So, something that is already dead can die? Amazing. humblebum Mar 2012 #24

The word "die" means far more than you think it does, it does not just relate to biology Bjorn Against Mar 2012 #27

Oh. My. God. Did you REALLY just post that? REALLY? cleanhippie Mar 2012 #28

I realize you are being deliberately obtuse Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #35

I'm almost sorry for him. 2ndAmForComputers Mar 2012 #46

Do ya think? humblebum Mar 2012 #51

So you are being deliberately obtuse? Are you admitting that? cleanhippie Mar 2012 #68

Imagine me, acting like the hippie. I really have been spending too much humblebum Mar 2012 #69

Nah, if you were to spend some actual time around me... cleanhippie Mar 2012 #74

do you even read the words that you type? or do you not understand hypocrisy? piratefish08 Mar 2012 #55

Oh? So you are saying that something that is dead can die. Now I got it. humblebum Mar 2012 #57

Are you incapable of using metaphor? Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #26

When someone tells me their car died, I get very angry at them for spreading lies. ZombieHorde Mar 2012 #66

What does have the capability to determine Angry Dragon Mar 2012 #29

Her comment does not deny the existence of a deity either. (nt) thesquanderer Mar 2012 #30

Oh? What do you base that skepticscott Mar 2012 #73

Lawrence Krauss? Yep! 2ndAmForComputers Mar 2012 #44

I was pretty surprised to find out Miley Cyrus is with us, but she is starting to speak out Bjorn Against Mar 2012 #2

+1. It is always refreshing to see reason win over ignorance. cleanhippie Mar 2012 #5

Humm, a 1% making a video supporting OWS. LARED Mar 2012 #40

There are a number of people in the 1% who support Occupy Bjorn Against Mar 2012 #47

It must be the salvia. tridim Mar 2012 #4

Maybe, there are positive side-effects, you know. cleanhippie Mar 2012 #6

+1 nt tama Mar 2012 #71

The most interesting part LARED Mar 2012 #7

Some celebrities are much smarter and informed than we give them credit for. cleanhippie Mar 2012 #10

That's true, LARED Mar 2012 #41

I'm beginning to think she's beaten the odds JBoy Mar 2012 #31

I hope that she doesn't get scared of the negative Nellies out there. Kalidurga Mar 2012 #32

I wish people would quit arguing over religion and science. Jamaal510 Mar 2012 #33

Actually, for all we know, one side is more likely to be true. cleanhippie Mar 2012 #34

Most certainly tama Mar 2012 #72

Nonsense. cleanhippie Mar 2012 #76

You are giving both sides of the argument equal chance of being right? Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #37

sure. one argument based on theories, experimentation and proof. the other based on the campfire piratefish08 Mar 2012 #56

I wasn't alive during the Civil War or WWII _ed_ Mar 2012 #60

In related news - Miley Cyrus went car shopping WITHOUT A BRA (video link included) cbayer Mar 2012 #36

What does that have to do with anything? Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #38

Non-sequitur. Or did you have a point that no one else would see? cleanhippie Mar 2012 #39

You're clearly implying the OP is as relevant as your post. 2ndAmForComputers Mar 2012 #42

Oooops! Looks like Billy Ray failed at making her a RW halfwit like himself. 2ndAmForComputers Mar 2012 #43

You go, Miley!!! Odin2005 Mar 2012 #54

Young, ignorant, and all about her. humblebum Mar 2012 #58

Stop projecting, its pretty obvious. n/t Humanist_Activist Mar 2012 #64

I, too, think the Lawrence Krauss quote is beautiful. 2ndAmForComputers Mar 2012 #65