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rurallib

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4. Been wondering that all my life

Sun Jul 6, 2014, 10:46 AM

Jul 2014

when I asked the priest back in religion class at the catholic HS I got the "you must have faith" lecture.

If Eve was the only woman then Cain was a - well you know and we are descendants of incest.
If there were other women not related, then Adam and Eve were not the only humans.

Let me add another question
Who the heck was Lillith anyway?

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Can someone help me with a Bible question? [View all] dixiegrrrrl Jul 2014 OP

When they went to the east of Eden, in the land of Nod Warpy Jul 2014 #1

Did he found the Brotherhood of Nod? DetlefK Jul 2014 #32

Obviously with Eve. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #2

Was Eve maried to Adam is what I'd like to know. thecrow Jul 2014 #129

Only if Eve or Adam was married to someone else. okasha Jul 2014 #130

Not other parents were mentioned, though thecrow Jul 2014 #131

Precisely. okasha Jul 2014 #134

If you want something besides snark, you may want to post this in the Interfaith group. cbayer Jul 2014 #3

Hey cbayer.... dixiegrrrrl Jul 2014 #6

The story makes absolutely no sense at all. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #8

Your cofidence in us is always touching. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #9

Whatever. Give it a shot Justin. Explain how the sons of Eve procreated. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #10

As I said below, it is assumed Adam and Eve had daughters but were not named. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #11

So incest? Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #12

Yes. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #13

You do understand that direct inbreeding like this has serious unfortunate consequences Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #17

Well I believe it is allegory. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #18

synonyms: parable, analogy, metaphor, symbol, emblem Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #21

Why it was written like this I can not tell you. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #23

I don't understand why you just don't chuck defense of the indefensible. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #25

I don't believe it is mostly nonsense. I don't know why you would say this to me. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #26

Genesis is a collection of myths Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2014 #145

The prohibition against okasha Jul 2014 #28

So god didn't understand why incest was a bad idea, particularly between close relatives? Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #73

Apoplexy accepted. okasha Jul 2014 #76

lack of argument, personal attack noted. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #77

Broad brush noted. rug Jul 2014 #89

Sarah and Abraham were siblings. SummerSnow Jul 2014 #79

Yes. okasha Jul 2014 #91

Of course, it is also highly likely that humans engaged in episodic inbreeding during LTX Jul 2014 #96

I really don't think we were ever down to one pair of individuals. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #97

One pair of individuals is not a prerequisite for inbreeding. LTX Jul 2014 #98

Sure. Not my point. One pair is almost Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #99

Likely so. n/t LTX Jul 2014 #100

not at all almost certain. the risks are certainly much higher, but it's not even 50%. unblock Jul 2014 #101

Adam and Eve had daughters. SummerSnow Jul 2014 #81

yes. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #83

I'll tell you how it was explained to me. Mariana Jul 2014 #139

A&A? rug Jul 2014 #15

Nothing in the A&A SOP/Haven info about sagely nodding and respectfully withholding all questions AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #50

The word used was "nonsense". rug Jul 2014 #65

The word "nonsense" is charitable. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #68

It is. But I suspect we're thinking of different rooms. rug Jul 2014 #69

What are you saying is nonsense? hrmjustin Jul 2014 #70

My guess is edhopper Jul 2014 #71

I thought this was becoming about safe havens. my mistake I guess. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #72

And I hope you enjoy AA. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #67

It is the perfect place for criticism of beliefs especially Bortman33 Jul 2014 #87

And AA serves a good purpose and I am glad you have it. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #88

Being charitable, I'm assuming okasha Jul 2014 #90

That sounds good but doesn't explain all the posts complaining about DU and DU members. rug Jul 2014 #92

That book (collection of books) is so vile, it doesn't deserve better treatment. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #49

Lol! Well, that's your opinion and you are welcome to it. cbayer Jul 2014 #53

I'm glad that it's funny to you. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #54

"it's" not funny to me. You are. cbayer Jul 2014 #55

Ok. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #56

Apology accepted. Or maybe I should say, apoplexy accepted. cbayer Jul 2014 #57

Which season is the 'drown everyone, except one lucky family' thing again? AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #58

I would suggest you stay prepared at all times. cbayer Jul 2014 #59

That doesn't bother me so much. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #61

"Apoplexy accepted." okasha Jul 2014 #75

wow, you just go right for the personal attack at every opportunity Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #74

People who have a sense of humor okasha Jul 2014 #78

no okasha, that is not what happened Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #80

Laugh every now and then. okasha Jul 2014 #84

"smile honey" nt. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #95

Been wondering that all my life rurallib Jul 2014 #4

Right, Seth was born after Abel intaglio Jul 2014 #5

They also founded a fairly interesting cable TV channel Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #47

It is assumed that Adam and Eve had daughters but they don't mention their names. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #7

... SummerSnow Jul 2014 #14

Augustine discussed that question nearly 1700 years ago. rug Jul 2014 #16

Augustine being quite the Biblical literalist here don't you think. Leontius Jul 2014 #19

There was a lot of that going on in the fourth century. rug Jul 2014 #20

More's the shame that Origen was pushed to the fringes of our Faith in that period. Leontius Jul 2014 #22

That's an excellent point. rug Jul 2014 #27

First off it's a myth, which isn't a dirty word. LoveIsNow Jul 2014 #24

Naamah was, however, a woman, so not really connectable with Noah muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #36

If you want to find workable solutions to this myth LostOne4Ever Jul 2014 #29

But...you're not supposed to ask questions like that - mr blur Jul 2014 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author demigoddess Jul 2014 #31

"Discuss religious and theological issues. All relevant topics are permitted." Arugula Latte Jul 2014 #138

Sorry, I didn't think I needed the Sarcasm smiley mr blur Jul 2014 #141

No, I got what you were saying ... Arugula Latte Jul 2014 #142

No problem! mr blur Jul 2014 #144

Perhaps their sisters TexasProgresive Jul 2014 #33

If Adam and Eve edhopper Jul 2014 #34

As many times as the versions of the Bible has been written and re-written and etc dixiegrrrrl Jul 2014 #35

That's both the benefit and problem with metaphor edhopper Jul 2014 #37

Nope. okasha Jul 2014 #38

What are you saying edhopper Jul 2014 #39

Whether eating the apple okasha Jul 2014 #40

Sure, but what is the story with the fruit all about. edhopper Jul 2014 #41

The fruit gives knowledge of good and evil. okasha Jul 2014 #42

So my original post about edhopper Jul 2014 #43

Which is one reason I'd go with pride okasha Jul 2014 #44

Hmmm edhopper Jul 2014 #45

I would suspect okasha Jul 2014 #46

So the serpent goddess edhopper Jul 2014 #62

Oh, yeah. okasha Jul 2014 #82

They proved the serpent was telling the truth and God lied to them. That pissed Him off. arcane1 Jul 2014 #85

Actually, neither God nor the serpent lied. LTX Jul 2014 #102

It's all bullshit. If you left a age-appropriately ignorant child, say 2 years old, in a room with a AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #48

Actually, I find the eden mythology to be among the most thought provoking aspects of Genesis. LTX Jul 2014 #103

Thought provoking in what manner? AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #113

Among others, the pantheistic implications of the tale, LTX Jul 2014 #116

The latter is not interesting to me. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #123

You say, LTX Jul 2014 #126

Seth got Chucked... Kalidurga Jul 2014 #51

Cain apparently found a wife among people of the sixth-day creation . . . Petrushka Jul 2014 #52

The word 'adam' meant mankind The Blue Flower Jul 2014 #60

I also had teacher in Hebrew school edhopper Jul 2014 #63

Were you raised Orthodox? n/t LTX Jul 2014 #104

Conservative edhopper Jul 2014 #105

Reform, here. LTX Jul 2014 #109

Lol edhopper Jul 2014 #110

Interesting..... dixiegrrrrl Jul 2014 #64

Life. rug Jul 2014 #66

Some have said RadicalGeek Jul 2014 #86

What??? WovenGems Jul 2014 #93

Genesis is more myth than fable Act_of_Reparation Jul 2014 #94

For a large part of Genesis, I would agree that LTX Jul 2014 #106

The main moral message in Genesis, and indeed most of the OT, seems to be: trotsky Jul 2014 #108

Is that really what you draw from chapters 2 and 3 of Genesis? n/t LTX Jul 2014 #111

Yup. trotsky Jul 2014 #114

There are serious consequences to obeying as well. LTX Jul 2014 #117

Who knows? trotsky Jul 2014 #118

Right. As with all mythologies, oral and written. LTX Jul 2014 #120

So what do we do with folks who take them seriously? trotsky Jul 2014 #122

I take it seriously. But I assume you mean those christians who profess to take it literally, LTX Jul 2014 #132

No argument from me there. trotsky Jul 2014 #135

Oops. By "them" you obviously meant the whole biblical kit and caboodle. LTX Jul 2014 #140

I would hesitate to consider them moral lessons Act_of_Reparation Jul 2014 #112

Agreed. trotsky Jul 2014 #115

You say "Adam and Eve offended God, and thus they all were made to suffer for it." LTX Jul 2014 #124

blind obediance would have kept man in the Garden eternally. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #125

The "plan" in the story, of course, was to permit (or place) the serpent. LTX Jul 2014 #127

In Christian theology okasha Jul 2014 #133

Indeed, and perhaps I've overstated the discordance between christian theology LTX Jul 2014 #136

True. okasha Jul 2014 #137

We were taught that Genesis was at least part allegory. riqster Jul 2014 #107

You pose an interesting question... JohnnyRingo Jul 2014 #119

I am tempted to ask the fundy minister across the street dixiegrrrrl Jul 2014 #121

Beware of the word "faith" the very real truth that as a whole not one of any self labeled AuntPatsy Jul 2014 #128

It's a myth.... AlbertCat Jul 2014 #143