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6. Grieving grandfather had to worry about a mass because murdered baby wasn't baptized...

Wed Jul 16, 2014, 01:07 PM

Jul 2014

Josh Beard Allegedly Punched, Stomped Girlfriend's Child To Death

A young Texas couple have been arrested in the murder of an 18-month-old child who was brutally abused before being stomped to death and buried under a bridge wrapped in a blanket, police said.

Joshua Beard, 20, and Alexis Botello, 17, had only been dating for a few months prior to the death of Botello's daughter, Tylea Moore, on July 4.

In an Arlington, Texas, police affidavit obtained by The Huffington Post, officers said that Beard had called the toddler a "little demon" while punching her and that he also abused Botello when she attempted to stop him.

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Now, Ricardo Botello must bury his granddaughter. "We're Catholic, and the baby was not baptized, unfortunately," he said. "But we found a diocese who will conduct the service for us, and we're thankful for that."

Botello said the grief is overwhelming.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/11/josh-beard-child-killed_n_5578107.html?cps=gravity

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Priest convicted of murdering nun dies; diocese plans funeral Mass [View all] SecularMotion Jul 2014 OP

An excerpt for his funeral homily by Fr. Thomas Extejt TexasProgresive Jul 2014 #1

WOW AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #5

That is a good and fitting homliy. rug Jul 2014 #9

Disagree. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #51

Murder someone? Well, okay. You get a funeral mass. trotsky Jul 2014 #2

Could be worse Act_of_Reparation Jul 2014 #3

Debunked. rug Jul 2014 #11

Rules is rules edhopper Jul 2014 #4

The same one who posts other equally ignorant information. rug Jul 2014 #21

Grieving grandfather had to worry about a mass because murdered baby wasn't baptized... beam me up scottie Jul 2014 #6

Everything. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #7

Indeed. beam me up scottie Jul 2014 #8

What's wrong with this picture is that you think that's the salient point of this story. rug Jul 2014 #40

"Questioning other posters and their motives is tiresome meta." beam me up scottie Jul 2014 #41

So does dishonesty. rug Jul 2014 #42

Uh huh... beam me up scottie Jul 2014 #43

No need. What I see is entirely superficial. rug Jul 2014 #44

No really, keep going, I find myself in need of entertainment tonight. beam me up scottie Jul 2014 #45

That doesn't surprise me in the least. rug Jul 2014 #46

Would you prefer his head on a pike? rug Jul 2014 #10

It's not about his punishment edhopper Jul 2014 #12

No one is honored in death. rug Jul 2014 #13

As was your edhopper Jul 2014 #14

Not based on the reactions in this thread. rug Jul 2014 #15

Really edhopper Jul 2014 #18

A post about pretzels would evoke the same reaction from them about the RCC. rug Jul 2014 #20

Perhaps edhopper Jul 2014 #23

Promoting accuracy is not defending. rug Jul 2014 #24

that's a complete edhopper Jul 2014 #27

And that's a complete non sequitur (sic) to my initial statement. rug Jul 2014 #29

Secular posted the OP without comment edhopper Jul 2014 #32

This is pure meta. rug Jul 2014 #36

speak for yourself buddy. I am NOT a sinner. CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #34

The hell you ain't. rug Jul 2014 #35

No, we don't. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #53

Speak for yourself. rug Jul 2014 #68

No, you're not getting away that easily. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #70

That presupposes you're anywhere near me. rug Jul 2014 #71

Deflect and spin away. I would too, if I were in your position. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #73

I doubt you could be in my position to make that determination. rug Jul 2014 #75

Let me know when you feel like actually adressing post 70 AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #78

Sorry, your headline was designed to ignore what followed. rug Jul 2014 #80

Murder harms someone. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #83

If you make a list, you'd be surprised how much those lists mesh. rug Jul 2014 #85

I've already done the comparison. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #87

Your arrogance is astounding. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #52

Your sensitivity is equally astounding. rug Jul 2014 #69

I don't need to be 'sensitive' to your mischaracterization of my nature. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #72

No shit. rug Jul 2014 #74

No, they don't. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #76

Read it again. I said activities, not relationship. rug Jul 2014 #77

Yeah, I do things that your religion's source documentation specifies is a sin against your god. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #79

Without prying, lots of sources, secular or religious, mainly denounce the same things. rug Jul 2014 #81

I have authorized the destruction of fertilized embryos. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #82

Well, good for you. rug Jul 2014 #84

That it isn't a sin? Yes indeed. How pleasantly I characterize it has no bearing. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #86

And the jury results are in... aikoaiko Jul 2014 #37

Thanks for the update. rug Jul 2014 #39

I feel like I am really missing the point here. cbayer Jul 2014 #16

Petty and unreasonable? edhopper Jul 2014 #19

Did you read your first link? rug Jul 2014 #22

Yes I did edhopper Jul 2014 #25

So, are you now attacking the individual pastor who refused or the Church that rescinded it? rug Jul 2014 #26

No I am saying edhopper Jul 2014 #28

Questioning anything is fine. rug Jul 2014 #30

I wasn't questioning her motives, i was responding to her post. edhopper Jul 2014 #33

I have personally attended funeral masses for LGBT persons. okasha Jul 2014 #47

Denying mass for a gay man is clearly way beyond petty and unreasonable. cbayer Jul 2014 #48

Yes edhopper Jul 2014 #49

Impunity? I don't think that means what you think it means. cbayer Jul 2014 #50

impugning edhopper Jul 2014 #58

Remember whatever you like, but if you wish to be correct, remember that this cbayer Jul 2014 #61

You might not agree with that edhopper Jul 2014 #62

Again, I did not say that asking these question was petty and unreasonable. cbayer Jul 2014 #63

Why did you write this then? edhopper Jul 2014 #64

OMG, do you think you could twist this around any further? cbayer Jul 2014 #65

Capiche edhopper Jul 2014 #66

Thanks. I appreciate that. cbayer Jul 2014 #92

Has anyone said he should be denied a funeral? Act_of_Reparation Jul 2014 #55

As I said, I don't think the article posted really made the point you are making, cbayer Jul 2014 #57

Perhaps not Act_of_Reparation Jul 2014 #59

I agree with you. There were articles available that really made those points. cbayer Jul 2014 #60

It is an act of mercy to give this deceased man a funeral mass. No Vested Interest Jul 2014 #17

Mercy? Please do explain skepticscott Jul 2014 #38

No, 'we' aren't. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #54

What detestable bullshit! mr blur Jul 2014 #67

They don't kick you out for mere mortal crimes like murder and pedophilia Lordquinton Jul 2014 #90

Christians are supposed to forgive. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #31

Part of the moral conundrum such faith presents, honestly. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #56

I think that might have been a little, um, too deep Heddi Jul 2014 #88

I must admit ignorance edhopper Jul 2014 #89

Dostoyevsky. From The Brother's Karamazov. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #91