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48. No, I'm saying it's not yours.

Tue Jul 22, 2014, 03:35 PM

Jul 2014

As to the stronger arguments, I stick with the philosophical ones, Epicurus specifically. Those arguments are not based on observation but on logic and internal contradictions and extrapolations. Those are much harder to rebut, especially since the common definitions of gods include supernatural attributes which by definition are beyond natural observation.

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Agnosticism. [View all] mmonk Jul 2014 OP

This chart helps: Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #1

I am an agnostic because of mathematics. DetlefK Jul 2014 #2

I agree that is a question which literally has no answer. cbayer Jul 2014 #4

It's not foolish to reject something that has zero evidence Lordquinton Jul 2014 #7

No, I didn't say it was foolish to reject something that for an individual has zero evidence. cbayer Jul 2014 #8

I would appreciate clarification on that point... Act_of_Reparation Jul 2014 #12

I know that there will be labels from a chart that you will apply to this, but cbayer Jul 2014 #14

That's not an especially compelling qualification. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2014 #49

I fail to see any petty insults or baseless character assassinations, but if that is cbayer Jul 2014 #50

Ask... gcomeau Jul 2014 #26

It appears that you have misunderstood or missed the entire point. cbayer Jul 2014 #28

It seems you need to read my post again. gcomeau Jul 2014 #31

Oh, now I remember why it is so unpleasant to talk to you. cbayer Jul 2014 #32

Because I don't smile sweetly and overlook the fact... gcomeau Jul 2014 #37

Yep, that is pretty much it. cbayer Jul 2014 #38

Nothing in science can be proven beyond doubt skepticscott Jul 2014 #6

That is wrong. DetlefK Jul 2014 #17

No, it isn't. gcomeau Jul 2014 #27

Perhaps, but that's not the only way to answer the question. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #10

I tend to agree. Infinity is the key Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #36

I like the term apatheism, but I also like agnosticism. cbayer Jul 2014 #3

Lack of evidence is only one argument and it is a very limited argument. rug Jul 2014 #5

Lack of evidence... NeoGreen Jul 2014 #15

Drollery is not your strong suit. rug Jul 2014 #25

Are you suggesting... NeoGreen Jul 2014 #47

No, I'm saying it's not yours. rug Jul 2014 #48

It's a fluster-cluck libodem Jul 2014 #9

Oh good, it's this thread again. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #11

That is not what an agnostic thinks or says... Act_of_Reparation Jul 2014 #13

Sometimes when a word takes on a meaning in the colloquial, everyday sense cbayer Jul 2014 #16

I don't understand why you keep doubling down on this Act_of_Reparation Jul 2014 #19

I double down on this because I disagree with the argument about what this word means. cbayer Jul 2014 #22

Popular usage ALWAYS trumps a dictionary definition, okasha Jul 2014 #39

There is an abundance of examples and no matter how badly some want cbayer Jul 2014 #40

Just thought of another favorite pair. okasha Jul 2014 #41

We were just discussing tonight "period" versus "full stop". cbayer Jul 2014 #42

And of course, "period" okasha Jul 2014 #43

And that was an important part of our conversation! cbayer Jul 2014 #44

What? Act_of_Reparation Jul 2014 #45

Oh, how inspiring. Our conversation is now down to silly gifs. cbayer Jul 2014 #46

cbayer, what the heck are you doing here??? elleng Jul 2014 #30

I most certainly am in Italy! cbayer Jul 2014 #33

Lovely. elleng Jul 2014 #34

Oh, enjoy the baby! cbayer Jul 2014 #35

Hie the unto Florence at sometime intaglio Jul 2014 #52

I went to Florence a few weeks ago and Rome last week. cbayer Jul 2014 #54

Presently, any sort of god is unknowable. mmonk Jul 2014 #18

Right. Which is why the label "agnostic" can be unwieldy Act_of_Reparation Jul 2014 #20

Yep. And that is my point. mmonk Jul 2014 #21

Are there any Gods edhopper Jul 2014 #23

I only get mad because people think Theist means Yes, Atheist means No, and Agnostic means Maybe. Iggo Jul 2014 #24

I don't say 'why bother,' elleng Jul 2014 #29

A difficult subject intaglio Jul 2014 #51

Thanks. I appreciate that. cbayer Jul 2014 #53