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Goblinmonger

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42. Interesting take.

Wed Mar 14, 2012, 09:59 AM

Mar 2012

But my point, as a former debater and debate coach, is that people need to be held to the standards that they set up. TMO should follow that which he preaches. It matters not what I think. He is free to have his ideals (of which, I can criticize of course or argue are bad) but if he has them, then he should probably be following them or re-evaluate them. If he is going to preach at someone for being disrespectful, he should not be disrespectful in the process. If he is, then he needs to re-evaluate his standard and either live by it himself or change the standard. It is not my place to tell him what he should be believing--as most theists in this forum seem to what to be think. But I can certainly point out hypocrisy of the standards that they do hold.

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