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In reply to the discussion: When religious people do bad things in the name of religion... [View all]Htom Sirveaux
(1,242 posts)15. I think the authors stopped too soon on that one.
We could extend their discussion by saying that prior to the Civil War, those states were tighter because they feared a slave uprising, especially one in which slaves and poor whites made common cause. Hence the formalization of the cult of white superiority in the aftermath of this:
The Gloucester County Conspiracy took place at a time when Virginia tobacco growers relied on both slaves and indentured servants to farm tobacco. Management treated their workers with cruel abandon, regardless of color.
Unwilling to accept their fate, a group of black and white workers met in secret to plan a revolt. After securing weapons and a drum, they would "march from house to house" until they reached the mansion of Royal Governor Sir William Berkeley. They would demand their freedom, and resort to force if necessary.
Though the plot failed, the landowners recognized the power that the Gloucester rebels possessed when banded together. Over the next several decades, they sought to breed racial contempt between the white and black members of the underclass. On the plantation level, they gave whites nominal control in the field. On the colony level, they allowed whites to join the militia and carry firearms. As historian Edmund Morgan writes, the landowners used racism as a device for control.
Unwilling to accept their fate, a group of black and white workers met in secret to plan a revolt. After securing weapons and a drum, they would "march from house to house" until they reached the mansion of Royal Governor Sir William Berkeley. They would demand their freedom, and resort to force if necessary.
Though the plot failed, the landowners recognized the power that the Gloucester rebels possessed when banded together. Over the next several decades, they sought to breed racial contempt between the white and black members of the underclass. On the plantation level, they gave whites nominal control in the field. On the colony level, they allowed whites to join the militia and carry firearms. As historian Edmund Morgan writes, the landowners used racism as a device for control.
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The article is not about whether or not you give a shit about religious beliefs or not.
rug
Jul 2014
#4
You just equated a process that is used to detemine the nature of reality to a made up bit
AtheistCrusader
Jul 2014
#33
Sounds like the Dianetics book someone sent me when I graduated high school.
AtheistCrusader
Jul 2014
#43
Fine I still don't give a shit what you think of me yourself or any other thing.
upaloopa
Jul 2014
#66
Ok, then change it to "Without religion, would people still give charity to the poor"
Htom Sirveaux
Jul 2014
#17
Eh? You just sabotaged your own graph by undermining the lone distinction it made.
trotsky
Jul 2014
#32
No, you're just wanting to pick a more nebulous standard for how we judge someone as being...
trotsky
Jul 2014
#99
Using Sociology, we could call "religion" whatever calls itself that, or is called that, say.
Brettongarcia
Jul 2014
#8
OK Sirveau: so you've finally decided to come out as a Christian Liberal apologist.
Brettongarcia
Jul 2014
#54
I see problems for the authors' thesis: very liberal states often have severe environment
Brettongarcia
Jul 2014
#9
Saying slave states suffered 'threats' seems a strange value judgement
muriel_volestrangler
Jul 2014
#14
What about the excuses for the states responsible for the procurement and transportation of slaves
Leontius
Jul 2014
#28
Are you the new "But It's Not Because Of Religion!" Spokesperson? I saw there was a vacancy.
mr blur
Jul 2014
#30
I think it is pretty exciting too. That post has been vacant for a while.
Warren Stupidity
Jul 2014
#47
I think this is a very interesting study, even if the results are not surprising.
cbayer
Jul 2014
#53
I find it unsurprising that strong religion is linked to poverty and ignorance; to the South
Brettongarcia
Jul 2014
#55
And the chief voice of anti-abortionism ... was Catholic conservative religion.
Brettongarcia
Jul 2014
#72
When you bond religion into the national, cultural, ethnic or racial and economic identity of a
Leontius
Jul 2014
#100
But many people give all the other motivations a pass and just assign blame to religion.
Leontius
Jul 2014
#103
Except you can't move on without being able to separate motivation from justification.
Leontius
Jul 2014
#109
Let's turn that around: what if it is claimed that religion doesn't have positive effects ...
Brettongarcia
Jul 2014
#73
But since the claim is clearly false, your statement is meaningless. n/t
Fortinbras Armstrong
Jul 2014
#77