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AtheistCrusader

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32. Scapegoating is repugnant.

Tue Jul 29, 2014, 01:39 PM

Jul 2014

If you asked most christians if they would torture one innocent person to death to make humanity better, they would refuse.
Yet they ignore the negative connotations when they embrace their god's alleged sacrifice.

For the most part, I raise the issue, because most christians I encounter are utterly blind to the implication, and do not understand why I consider their religion an outrageously vile moral proposition.

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I Want My Religion Back � You Can Keep the Ugly Baggage [View all] cbayer Jul 2014 OP

But the author is still carrying a lot of the baggage. longship Jul 2014 #1

But the author, Mark, doesn't really get it: he implies there is still a good Christianity Brettongarcia Jul 2014 #2

I'm not sure what you are saying here. cbayer Jul 2014 #5

I'm reading this more: there will be bad Christians. But ignore them, and follow Jesus (last line). Brettongarcia Jul 2014 #9

I have posted the following on his blog intaglio Jul 2014 #3

Well done. I think the comparisons are apt to some extent, but you take it too far. cbayer Jul 2014 #6

The problem I face is that divine revelation, however received intaglio Jul 2014 #10

You are talking about extreme positions. cbayer Jul 2014 #15

Christianity is *built* on a foundation of scapegoating. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #4

You say that like it is a bad thing. cbayer Jul 2014 #7

It is a bad thing. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #8

If you are going to post the link to a very bad newspaper piece cbayer Jul 2014 #12

Did you catch the overpayment issue? AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #14

Again, these sociological studies of religion might be fun to read and discuss, but cbayer Jul 2014 #17

Hence my use of 'implications' and 'indicators' not 'proof'. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #18

I'm not one to parse words, just studies. cbayer Jul 2014 #19

Really? AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #22

Reminders of what? Me parsing words? No thanks, I don't really like these games. cbayer Jul 2014 #23

Wise choice. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #24

You bet. Would hate to be humiliated by you in front of all these people. cbayer Jul 2014 #26

I hear laughter is a good defense mechanism. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #33

Oh, my friend, it is one of the best defense mechanisms. cbayer Jul 2014 #37

Witch hunts are a common form of scapegoating.Here's one academic reference at random.Among hundreds Brettongarcia Jul 2014 #20

I'm trying to think of a 'nice' example of scapegoating, but the word/usage doesn't really allow for AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #21

It's not meant to be nice. It's an old ritual that is used to perform a service cbayer Jul 2014 #25

The standard dictionary definition of scapegoating gives witch hunts as an example. Brettongarcia Jul 2014 #28

I didn't ascribe nice/meanness to it. It IS scapegoating. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #29

Yes, I agree that christianity is based on an episode that could be called scapegoating. cbayer Jul 2014 #30

Scapegoating is repugnant. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #32

You are again using a very narrow and colloquial definition of the word. cbayer Jul 2014 #34

Now you're just rearranging words. I can see you are done with this conversation. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #35

I am scatting as we speak. cbayer Jul 2014 #38

This reminds me of the time CBayer celebrated the "wonderful diversity"of African religious genocide Brettongarcia Jul 2014 #27

You are now accusing me of celebrating african religious genocide? cbayer Jul 2014 #31

In one OP you "celebrated the diversity" of religion, including African religion Brettongarcia Jul 2014 #39

I have no idea what you are talking about, but equating celebrating diversity with endorsing cbayer Jul 2014 #40

But equating concern over the Catholic takeover of secular hospitals... trotsky Jul 2014 #43

That's okay. okasha Jul 2014 #44

But, there's beauty in there too. Somewhere. Maybe somewhere between the skulls. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #42

But it's accurate enough: it's used to kill innocents, by blaming things on them. But that's OK? Brettongarcia Jul 2014 #11

You are accusing me of excusing countless murders? cbayer Jul 2014 #13

Scapegoating often means blaming innocents for problems ... then killing them. Brettongarcia Jul 2014 #16

How is there a "good version" phil89 Jul 2014 #36

Even if good, there were bad cases;Christians also scapegoated women as "witches," killing them Brettongarcia Jul 2014 #41