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1. Certain points of view are unwelcome on DU in general

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 07:35 PM

Aug 2014

As is clearly expressed in site rules. People who express such points of view are unwelcome in Religion and everywhere else. People who express silly and indefensible points of view may also expect to be told so, with no fawning deference to pleas of "but, I BELIEVE that!!" and if that makes them feel "unwelcome", tough.

Can you point to any groups of people who have been made to feel like they are unwelcome here simply because of what they are, and not because of what they say and think? Or is this just a not-so-subtle assertion of religious privilege?

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Certain points of view are unwelcome on DU in general skepticscott Aug 2014 #1

Q.E.D. rug Aug 2014 #3

Issues with DU in general are really better addressed directly to the Admins, I think. pinto Aug 2014 #9

Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #18

"Because, frankly, you're nothing special." rug Aug 2014 #21

I think you're right. Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #2

Yeah, I think it's doable without ceding any point on a topic. pinto Aug 2014 #7

And even conceding a point is not the end of the world. Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #10

LOL. Good point. I agree. pinto Aug 2014 #12

... Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #15

if you want to have friction free discussions, there is a group for Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #4

Only if you're incapable of discussing controversial subjects civilly. rug Aug 2014 #5

I don't mean friction free in re: to the topic. Differences are to be expected and welcomed. pinto Aug 2014 #6

there is too much history. We've been over this repeatedly. Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #8

Understood. pinto Aug 2014 #11

Things will change when people want them to change. Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #13

The religionistas who have regularly accused others of being bigots skepticscott Aug 2014 #16

How can you talk about being civil when you call us that word religionista? hrmjustin Aug 2014 #17

Forget them for a second. What about you? Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #19

QED2. rug Aug 2014 #20

I know you and I discussed this before. Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #24

Actually, the best remedy for bullies, internet or otherwise, is a vigorous defense. rug Aug 2014 #25

During the last several days okasha Aug 2014 #26

Appalling bullshit was left unchallenged. Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #37

I thought you said you don't pay attention to the Interfaith group. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #41

Nobody pays attention to your group Justin. That's the point. Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #42

You crack me up! hrmjustin Aug 2014 #43

It was left unchallenged because the usual slingers of appalling bullshit were noticeably absent. rug Aug 2014 #48

Do you think that promotes a positive atmosphere and encourages good discussions? rug Aug 2014 #14

You are correct. We don't have to be nice to each other. Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #34

You and your wife are throwing personal insults and snark here on a regular basis. Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #38

And yet again you insult me and my wife on a personal level. Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #46

lol. inane comment Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #54

Let's recap. You insult him, his wife and his family. Again. rug Aug 2014 #56

What do you find so amusing Warren? Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #65

lol. I can't believe you don't find it amusing. Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #76

OK, some good bud ya got there, I guess. Enjoy! Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #78

I am cross-posting my reply to you in another current thread. eomer Aug 2014 #39

You are assuming that I read the OP, which I didn't. Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #45

Then welcome the difference. Iggo Aug 2014 #61

Oh I do. I'm used to strong, often differing points of view. pinto Aug 2014 #67

Yes the ugliness does distract but I doubt it will change. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #22

That's an excellent tool to dismiss or marginalize other poster's positions by proxy. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #28

Not you and not reasonable discussion on faith and atheism. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #29

I don't think Justin meant you. Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #36

I think friction is inevitable. TygrBright Aug 2014 #23

I think you should figure out how the 'ignore' and 'trash thread' buttons work. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #27

I know well how they work. And get your point. pinto Aug 2014 #30

Both certainly have drawbacks. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #31

Yeah. (nt) pinto Aug 2014 #32

Put them on ignore, pinto. cbayer Aug 2014 #33

I agree. We should be able to discuss things without personal animosity. Jim__ Aug 2014 #35

When the people who complain the most about animosity and personal ugliness... trotsky Aug 2014 #40

Lead by example then. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #44

Do you think people should just turn the other cheek? Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #49

Nurse Betty's FB Knitting Group? Goblinmonger Aug 2014 #63

How is that a personal attack? Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #66

OK. I'll assume you don't get it. Goblinmonger Aug 2014 #70

Ah, once again you drag me into your head. rug Aug 2014 #72

I don't remember who use the name first Goblinmonger Aug 2014 #73

It wasn't me but it was you who first used my name. rug Aug 2014 #74

So what do you do, besides sit around and talk? okasha Aug 2014 #81

I really, firmly believe Goblinmonger Aug 2014 #83

So what do you do, besides sit around and talk? okasha Aug 2014 #88

we nap. Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #99

Sexist? You're kidding, right? Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #87

lol. I can't believe you said you're kidding. Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #96

From my perspective and I speak for no one but myself kdmorris Aug 2014 #47

I didn't see a post that fits that description. Do you have a link to it? rug Aug 2014 #50

And therein lies the reason kdmorris Aug 2014 #58

Asking for a link is unwelcoming? rug Aug 2014 #59

Have a great day, rug kdmorris Aug 2014 #64

Thanks for the link. rug Aug 2014 #68

I'd use the old canard about "great minds think alike" here, kdmorris... trotsky Aug 2014 #51

I think if you gave a heartfelt post people would respect your story and give you the respect you hrmjustin Aug 2014 #52

You are so wrong. You would be very welcome here. Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #53

I used to participate in this group. I no longer do. MineralMan Aug 2014 #55

Which is? rug Aug 2014 #57

My Own Business, rug. MineralMan Aug 2014 #86

I'm not sure how you envisioned this going, pinto kdmorris Aug 2014 #60

Mission accomplished. Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #62

Actually, this thread has done much okasha Aug 2014 #69

Do you really see yourself and not a part of the friction? Goblinmonger Aug 2014 #71

Suddenly all the religionistas are all about comity. Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #75

Yeah, you. rug Aug 2014 #77

I respond in kind to thoughtful posts. okasha Aug 2014 #79

So anytime you are an ass Goblinmonger Aug 2014 #80

Asses are intelligent, courageous and loyal creatures, okasha Aug 2014 #102

Well what a coincidence. trotsky Aug 2014 #85

Yeah I see no reason to delete this. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #84

"they've" ? kdmorris Aug 2014 #89

What purpose is that? hrmjustin Aug 2014 #90

why...to heal the community, of course n/t kdmorris Aug 2014 #91

Personally I thought it was a good op. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #95

Who doesn't? kdmorris Aug 2014 #103

I am sorry you don't feel welcome here as you said here. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #104

I thought about it, but am referring to hosts for a lock review. I think that's more appropriate. pinto Aug 2014 #92

I hope it is not locked. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #93

Yeah this is the most fun in like a week! amirite? Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #94

What do you mean by a week? hrmjustin Aug 2014 #97

7 days, generally speaking. And was that wax on or wax off? Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #98

Good bye warren. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #100

happy trails to you Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #101

Well the responses here are informative. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #82