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In reply to the discussion: Amish Bridle at Buggy Rules [View all]
 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
16. That's like saying, "I've driven drunk and never hit anyone! What do we need these DUI laws for?"
Sun Mar 18, 2012, 12:06 PM
Mar 2012

What relevance does your individual sample-of-one statistic have to do with anything?

Most traffic safety laws are based on the fact that 100% of the people aren't going to be as careful and attentive as they should be 100% of the time.

The real question, which none of us seems to have solid statistics on, is this: What's the difference in accident rates between places and times where and when different safety regulations have been in effect?

If there's a statistically significant reduction in accidents with the "garish" reflectors these Amish don't like, then they should either have to use them anyway or stay off the roads. If other alternatives which these Amish will accept produce similar safety results, fine then, let them have their way.

If the actual freedom to believe and worship of these people were at stake, I'd be willing to accept even some deadly risk to stand up for their freedom. When the issue is helping to alleviate believers from the costs of their own self-imposed rules, however, and the cost to others is risk to life and limb, that's too much accommodation and facilitation.

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I respect their right to abide by their religious beliefs, but when they are driving on taxpayer Arkansas Granny Mar 2012 #1
I agree completely FarPoint Mar 2012 #2
You got it Granny madokie Mar 2012 #3
here are more reasons backing up your post lukkadairish Mar 2012 #4
There are 2 technology solutions to this. One's expensive. Require motorists to wear night-vision leveymg Mar 2012 #5
Good idea. The simplest solution is usually the best solution. rug Mar 2012 #6
For those seeking solutions, not confrontation, anyway. leveymg Mar 2012 #7
Exactly. rug Mar 2012 #8
Actually, that was the old-tech solution until the motor vehicle codes were updated leveymg Mar 2012 #9
Even if that tech is old, it might still be called "garish" Silent3 Mar 2012 #10
Reflectors not necessary in daytime. A buggy is no less visible than a small black car. leveymg Mar 2012 #11
I didn't think this was just about visibility... Silent3 Mar 2012 #12
But the warning is also to key the other drivers Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #13
Then, the accomodation is to reckless, inattentative motorists, not the Amish. leveymg Mar 2012 #14
I agree. And other states have made accomodations cbayer Mar 2012 #15
That's like saying, "I've driven drunk and never hit anyone! What do we need these DUI laws for?" Silent3 Mar 2012 #16
Both sides have a burden to document their claims. How many accidents have there really been? How leveymg Mar 2012 #17
I presented two sides there. How is that one sided? Silent3 Mar 2012 #18
In all these cases, it's a matter of weighing the interests at stake. leveymg Mar 2012 #19
You can state what your values are, however... Silent3 Mar 2012 #21
Are you telling me that the rural areas in your state Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #20
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