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trotsky

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66. From your perspective it isn't.

Thu Aug 21, 2014, 11:38 AM

Aug 2014

Other people believe otherwise. I'm sure they would be offended by what you just said. Perhaps offended enough to even get up and walk out of a lecture. Shame on you.

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Susan Blackmore has an unexpected lecture experience at Oxford Royale Academy [View all] AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 OP

I'd really be interested in a study that measures physiological response to faith challenges. LiberalAndProud Aug 2014 #1

Indeed gcomeau Aug 2014 #2

"The online equivalent of fleeing the lecture hall." mr blur Aug 2014 #3

fleeing the lecture hall. AlbertCat Aug 2014 #84

I'll bet she could have gotten a different response Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #4

It seemed to me to be basically the same lecture she gave at TED, with just AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #6

I haven't seen her TED lecture. Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #7

At the TED confernence she touched on 'bad ideas'. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #9

Ok, now that I've watched the video. Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #50

According to her version of events, the disruption began as soon as she touched on evolution. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #52

True, but it was one person, and nobody left, not even when one of the volunteers started the chant Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #55

One thing i didnt see, and would ask her given the opportunity, is AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #57

This is the thing that I find really upsetting about this. stone space Aug 2014 #16

She's British. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #17

Well, in general, ... stone space Aug 2014 #20

To each their own. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #22

I don't know who Dembski is, ... stone space Aug 2014 #23

A creationist. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #25

ID, huh? stone space Aug 2014 #26

Oh? gcomeau Aug 2014 #27

That she is unprofessional and rude? stone space Aug 2014 #30

No... gcomeau Aug 2014 #34

I have worked with a good many okasha Aug 2014 #38

And my experience is the opposite of yours. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #53

Really? okasha Aug 2014 #54

I do and I do. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #56

She calls out and chides audience members gratuitously, AlbertCat Aug 2014 #85

Argh... gcomeau Aug 2014 #14

Journalism in its best use is neutral. Editorial Opinion pages are the place for advocacy, rebuttal. pinto Aug 2014 #28

Understanding that "neutral" does not mean "artificially balanced". gcomeau Aug 2014 #29

Yeah, neutral - not artificially balanced. Agree. pinto Aug 2014 #31

Sometimes edhopper Aug 2014 #32

Mmm. See your point. pinto Aug 2014 #33

On second thought, how can truth be biased? pinto Aug 2014 #35

Climate change for instance edhopper Aug 2014 #39

Relevant: trotsky Aug 2014 #62

The point of the presentation wasn't "why religion is awful" Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #41

Religion is an example of a meme. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #65

Something seems to be going unstated here. Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #68

It is as puzzling to me as some people's apparent expectation that she include something nice AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #70

It's part of good communication to establish connections with your audience. Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #75

I love the lack of self-consciousness of people Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #5

You are missing something here. stone space Aug 2014 #18

I didn't miss that they were leaving silently. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #79

You are making some major assumption here based on the single report of the cbayer Aug 2014 #80

No, I can't remember ever walking out of anything in protest. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #81

A childish gesture? It can be a profound political statement. cbayer Aug 2014 #82

Yeah, I don't have a lot of respect for the 'Code' people either. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #83

Being disruptive is entirely different than silently walking out. cbayer Aug 2014 #87

Couldn't she just say positive things about religion? Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #8

Hypothetical: you sign up for college lecture on statistics. Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #10

Her lecture was on memes. trotsky Aug 2014 #12

I'm assuming that religion qualifies. Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #42

By the definition given, okasha Aug 2014 #49

Must every lecture be "fair and balanced?" trotsky Aug 2014 #61

Bad comparison, creationism/ID isn't science, Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #64

From your perspective it isn't. trotsky Aug 2014 #66

And I would not change my lecture to avoid that outcome. Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #67

But you still haven't explained why she should have been required to do that for a lecture. n/t trotsky Aug 2014 #69

You and AtheistCrusader both ask this question. Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #76

You mean... gcomeau Aug 2014 #15

Um what the heck does this have to do with the invited speaker speaking at the lecture she Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #36

She was invited to speak on memes, not "why religion is awful". Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #43

Perhaps you ought to re-read the essay. Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #44

No, as I told Trotsky, I have no problem with her Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author okasha Aug 2014 #47

The chairman apologized? I didn't see that. Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #48

Not sure where I saw that. okasha Aug 2014 #51

Any luck? AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #94

"... you should be open-minded enough to hear alternative views." Jim__ Aug 2014 #11

Calling out and chiding audience members as they leave? stone space Aug 2014 #13

Oh do try harder. mr blur Aug 2014 #19

Please don't tell me how to post. (nt) stone space Aug 2014 #21

We are pretty much allowed to express our opinions of other people's posts here. Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #37

OK, well...I'll try harder then. stone space Aug 2014 #40

that was the suggestion. Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #45

I would have stayed until she said "memeplexes". rug Aug 2014 #24

Too bad that this experience apparently did nothing but reinforce her dogmatic cbayer Aug 2014 #58

Not all muslims reject evolution. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #59

I don't understand the point of your post. cbayer Aug 2014 #60

Oh AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #63

It was not her talking about evolution that caused them to feel that way. cbayer Aug 2014 #71

Really? Blackmore is one of the most prominent Atheists in the 'activist' community, outside the AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #72

Well, I don't expect to hear much more from her. cbayer Aug 2014 #73

Nah, she'll be around. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #74

Yes, she and the horsemen will have their audience, I am sure. cbayer Aug 2014 #77

Sad! I guess she got her comeuppance. Shame on her. Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #78

If half your audience is offended by criticism of ideas... MellowDem Aug 2014 #86

Oh, is that why they walked out? Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #88

It's far easier to be offended... MellowDem Aug 2014 #90

As it is far easier to retain an audience by not insulting it. Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #91

Religious beliefs don't deserve respect automatically... MellowDem Aug 2014 #93

I don't respect beliefs, I respect people. Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #95

They chose to be personally insulted... MellowDem Aug 2014 #96

Right Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #99

There is some theory in play here, perhaps part of our indoctrinated cultural expectations, Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #89

I'm reminded of "The First Amendment doesn't exist so we can talk about the weather" AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #92

If the situation were just slightly different, if instead she were lecturing about Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #97

Or even peer reviewed research about climate change. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #98