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phil89

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28. I bet mcveigh also didn't believe in Santa

Thu Aug 21, 2014, 12:01 PM

Aug 2014

When he blew up the federal building... What's your point? Does that imply something about people who don't think Santa is real?

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Religion and Delusion: Branch Davidians and the Siege of Waco [View all] Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 OP

God gives us so much hope, with so much evidence of his fruits Brettongarcia Aug 2014 #1

One could say the same of many things Prophet 451 Aug 2014 #2

There certainly are other ways mass delusional behavior can be induced. Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #7

How many would it take to constitute mass delusional behavior? Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #36

I'm not saying religion should get a special pass AlbertCat Aug 2014 #71

Lather, rinse, repeat. longship Aug 2014 #3

As needed. Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #6

Or, as not. longship Aug 2014 #9

You have the power at your disposal to trash threads, ignore posters etc. Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #43

Well, Warren, one post gets the point across. longship Aug 2014 #44

It requires as many as I see fit to post. Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #45

If religion is literally murderous often, as in documented cases of genocide, then it is ... Brettongarcia Aug 2014 #50

I am a lifelong atheist. longship Aug 2014 #59

My position: presenting academic, clinical, historical papers should not be considered insulting. Brettongarcia Aug 2014 #65

I would concur. longship Aug 2014 #70

Are you going to take believers to task for posting "lather, rinse, repeat" posts? EvolveOrConvolve Aug 2014 #68

Well, this is the Religion group. longship Aug 2014 #75

Yes, the Branch Davidian leadership and Tim McVeigh ended up hurting a lot of people. Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #4

It seems to be quite possible to induce mass delusional behavior using religious memes. Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #5

Are you suggesting we ban religion as too potentially dangerous? Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #11

But it seems only the religious part of the free exercise clause edhopper Aug 2014 #12

I support critically examining religious beliefs when they are brought into political debates. Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #24

gotta go past last tuesday to see the story Lordquinton Aug 2014 #48

Personally, I've found that both believers and atheists largely want the same thing from each other. Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #84

Where did I suggest that? Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #14

Ok, I'll rephrase. Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #15

Why is it when someone edhopper Aug 2014 #17

Probably because nobody is claiming that our political system can function without an opposing party Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #26

We don't need religion we can live without it. Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #27

No, that is not correct. Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #31

Well, in this forum there are quite a few people who proclaim that religion is just ducky. Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #35

If you don't mind my asking, what has been your personal experience with religion? Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #85

Actually, SCOTUS reads parts of the Constitution and Declaration to put some limits on religion Brettongarcia Aug 2014 #51

Right, because nobody else had noticed that? Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #38

Just about every time an example is brought up here by anyone identified as an atheist Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #39

Of course I agree. How could I not agree? I see it daily Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #41

keep the insults flying tacky. It is so charming and civil. Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #46

Like "tacky"? Those kind of insults? Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #47

oh my gosh you are so clever. Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #49

For once, I am in complete agreement with you Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #54

Are you suggesting we ban religion as too potentially dangerous? AlbertCat Aug 2014 #72

I'm still waiting for your thread on Masada. rug Aug 2014 #8

What was the reason for the suicide at Masada? edhopper Aug 2014 #13

Roman legions building a ramp to kill them. rug Aug 2014 #16

What was their reason for killing themselves? edhopper Aug 2014 #18

I suspect they were trying to avoid crucifixion. rug Aug 2014 #20

So how it Masada edhopper Aug 2014 #22

It is as similar to Heaven's Gate, or Waco, or any other aberration Warren is fixated on, rug Aug 2014 #33

In Masada, Zionists - religious extremists? - would not cooperate with another, Roman religion Brettongarcia Aug 2014 #53

Ah, a defense of literal imperialism. rug Aug 2014 #55

Israel itself invaded Palestine, killing the original Philistines etc.. Brettongarcia Aug 2014 #58

Actually there was no Palestine then, it was Canaan. rug Aug 2014 #60

Actually, Caanan isn't quite inclusive enough; the newer word "Palestine" gets the broader geography Brettongarcia Aug 2014 #63

Actually there was no Palestine then, it was Canaan. AlbertCat Aug 2014 #73

And when he's done with Masada, okasha Aug 2014 #21

That's a good one. rug Aug 2014 #34

Fortunately, he'll just need to type it, not pronounce it. okasha Aug 2014 #37

Oh goodie, it's the old comedy double act! mr blur Aug 2014 #62

Fortunately, he'll just need to type it, not pronounce it. AlbertCat Aug 2014 #74

In Monsegur, religious extremists - Cathars - gave up their lives rather than be taken by Catholics Brettongarcia Aug 2014 #57

there's Montsegur. AlbertCat Aug 2014 #76

Religion is a framework in which it is insisted (and accepted)... trotsky Aug 2014 #10

McVeigh was an atheist when he blew up the Murrah Bldg. okasha Aug 2014 #19

From Time Magizine interview 2001 edhopper Aug 2014 #23

You missed the point. okasha Aug 2014 #25

McVeigh was associated with radical christian white supremacists when he blew up the Murrah Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #29

He was associated with his old Army buddy, okasha Aug 2014 #40

And some recognize something like PTSD in Nichols and others. Delusions. Brettongarcia Aug 2014 #52

He was also associated with Elohim City Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #56

Conspiracy theory, Warren? okasha Aug 2014 #64

1) McVeigh's own statement said he acted in response to "Waco"; the religious group Brettongarcia Aug 2014 #66

As I said, you seem very concerned about denying any association at all between Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #67

I don't deny that McVeigh had contact with several militia groups. okasha Aug 2014 #69

McVeigh is sporadically confesses a link to religion: the Catholic Church, the Branch Davidians Brettongarcia Aug 2014 #87

I am gobsmacked at this post. Fix The Stupid Aug 2014 #30

Go right ahead and be gobsmacked. okasha Aug 2014 #32

No, okasha, one can be either an agnostic theist OR an agnostic atheist. trotsky Aug 2014 #42

Right wing politics, yes. Religion, no. AlbertCat Aug 2014 #78

Oh, dear. okasha Aug 2014 #79

While I'm deeply honored that you want to be my stalker, AlbertCat Aug 2014 #80

Don't take your rejection so much to heart. okasha Aug 2014 #81

Don't take your rejection so much to heart. AlbertCat Aug 2014 #82

And do stop talking to yourself. okasha Aug 2014 #83

And do stop talking to yourself. AlbertCat Aug 2014 #86

McVeigh's statement: he did it as revenge for "what the U.S. government did at Waco and Ruby Ridge" Brettongarcia Aug 2014 #61

You missed the point. AlbertCat Aug 2014 #77

I bet mcveigh also didn't believe in Santa phil89 Aug 2014 #28