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In reply to the discussion: Amish Bridle at Buggy Rules [View all]
 

Silent3

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18. I presented two sides there. How is that one sided?
Sun Mar 18, 2012, 03:44 PM
Mar 2012

I did say that no one on either side of this argument had presented statistics, didn't I?

If no one can document the accident rate claims, however, I'd err on the side of public safety, not excessive accommodation that privileges some people with exemptions others don't enjoy. Freedom of religion remains regardless, people just have to accept that not all of their religious choices are free of personal costs, that they don't always get to spread the costs of their choices onto other people.

If the reflective markers don't produce any benefit at all, no one should have to use them, Amish or not. If different forms of markers are effective, everyone should have those options, Amish or not. I shouldn't have to be Amish to use a lantern or gray tape if those work just as well bright orange triangles.

In fact, the only way for religion to really be an important issue here is if you think there's a fundamental right for religious believers to make other people with differing beliefs bear a burden for their choices. If you argue that the law has no safety merit, then the law is a bad law for all people, regardless of their beliefs.

I felt the same way about a court case a few years ago when a Muslim woman was insisting that her driver's license photo be taken with her veil on. That makes the photo worthless as a form of ID, of course. She did not win the case, and I'm glad she didn't. If photo IDs aren't really that important, no one should be required to carry them. If they are important, no one should have a special privilege of being exempt that other people don't enjoy.

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I respect their right to abide by their religious beliefs, but when they are driving on taxpayer Arkansas Granny Mar 2012 #1
I agree completely FarPoint Mar 2012 #2
You got it Granny madokie Mar 2012 #3
here are more reasons backing up your post lukkadairish Mar 2012 #4
There are 2 technology solutions to this. One's expensive. Require motorists to wear night-vision leveymg Mar 2012 #5
Good idea. The simplest solution is usually the best solution. rug Mar 2012 #6
For those seeking solutions, not confrontation, anyway. leveymg Mar 2012 #7
Exactly. rug Mar 2012 #8
Actually, that was the old-tech solution until the motor vehicle codes were updated leveymg Mar 2012 #9
Even if that tech is old, it might still be called "garish" Silent3 Mar 2012 #10
Reflectors not necessary in daytime. A buggy is no less visible than a small black car. leveymg Mar 2012 #11
I didn't think this was just about visibility... Silent3 Mar 2012 #12
But the warning is also to key the other drivers Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #13
Then, the accomodation is to reckless, inattentative motorists, not the Amish. leveymg Mar 2012 #14
I agree. And other states have made accomodations cbayer Mar 2012 #15
That's like saying, "I've driven drunk and never hit anyone! What do we need these DUI laws for?" Silent3 Mar 2012 #16
Both sides have a burden to document their claims. How many accidents have there really been? How leveymg Mar 2012 #17
I presented two sides there. How is that one sided? Silent3 Mar 2012 #18
In all these cases, it's a matter of weighing the interests at stake. leveymg Mar 2012 #19
You can state what your values are, however... Silent3 Mar 2012 #21
Are you telling me that the rural areas in your state Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #20
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