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AtheistCrusader

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14. When why did you bing up 'vice'?
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 03:17 PM
Aug 2014

It is wildly inappropriate in this context. Should I have not offered the complete paragraph? What did you think the bold was for?

Things break. It happens. I would no more blame a human for a psychological issue than I would my car for a flat tire or a thrown rod. (ignoring that some psychological issues can be a very grey area that doesn't reflect a Boolean working/broken dichotomy. Not adding nuance because every time I do, it gets taken in the precise opposite way I meant it.)

I don't get angry for a fault in a circuit. I do not blame the device. Like it chose to short.


Personal failing implies blame. Implies a choice, however bad. Not once have I suggested that. The very first response I made to you included the specification that it is not "condemnation is not necessarily implied". On accommodate, taking in people as roommates, helping them in any manner they would accept. Not freaking out or rejecting them over various episodes, or uncomfortable situations.

It is not radically different from my approach to grief for others, creating space and time for them to work through it. I can't do it for you, but I can help contribute to an environment in which you feel comfortable and safe during treatment, etc.

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I think it is spelled "djinn" longship Aug 2014 #1
Sure she would, kentauros Aug 2014 #27
Cool. Thanks for the explanation. longship Aug 2014 #28
No problem! kentauros Aug 2014 #29
Are you familiar with Judith Tarr's novels? okasha Aug 2014 #34
No, I haven't heard of her. kentauros Aug 2014 #35
A song comes to mind. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #2
Do you see psychiatric illnesses as failings? nt. cbayer Aug 2014 #7
Quick! To the Bat Thesaurus! AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #8
So you see psychiatric illness as a blemish, frailty, shortcoming, fault, failing, foible, cbayer Aug 2014 #9
You have an unreasonable fondness for negative connotation that I am not using. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #10
Monster? Who in the world called you a monster. cbayer Aug 2014 #11
You are amazing. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #12
Thanks! But you don't need to flatter me. cbayer Aug 2014 #13
When why did you bing up 'vice'? AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #14
Well, that all sounds good and I am glad to see that is your position. cbayer Aug 2014 #16
I cannot control what tone you ascribe to a word. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #17
Disappointed? In yourself or in me? cbayer Aug 2014 #18
In that I had to repeat myself, and defend myself from unwarranted accusations. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #19
So would that be disappointment in yourself for not being clear cbayer Aug 2014 #20
I could not be more clear than the bold highlight in post 10. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #21
So I'm just too dense to see it? cbayer Aug 2014 #22
Re-visiting this thread. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #30
Thanks for that. I think we both may have over-reacted, but cbayer Aug 2014 #32
Do they edhopper Aug 2014 #3
Accepted and officially endorsed by the largest Christian church in the world. n/t trotsky Aug 2014 #5
maybe its brain chemistry and environment samsingh Aug 2014 #4
Every culture has had ways of trying to understand psychiatric illness that cbayer Aug 2014 #6
Those aren't djinn, they're thetans! n/t Silent3 Aug 2014 #15
It's a poor headline. rug Aug 2014 #23
And that's what one would expect... MellowDem Aug 2014 #24
None of which rehabilitates the assertion that Muslims think mental illness is caused by genies. rug Aug 2014 #25
Ahem: SOME, not all. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #31
Exactly procon Aug 2014 #26
Jinns...and Fairies... NeoGreen Aug 2014 #33
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