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Brettongarcia

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5. This article was posted by Rug; as part of his apparently endless series of posts attacking atheists
Sat Aug 23, 2014, 06:25 AM
Aug 2014

The evident intent here, like 3/4 (to be sure, not all) of Rug's OP posts and subsequent responses, is to accuse atheists - and not religious people - of being bad.

This particular article he likes no doubt, because it is an article by an atheist, finding extremity and dissention in the ranks of Atheism. And because it seems to encourage atheists to ... tone it down. To shut up.

Any bad news for Atheism is good news for Religion, therefore seems to be the philosophy behind such posts. Especially anything that tells Atheists to shut up.

Given that probable intent, it is worth responding not just to the article itself. But also the likely intent behind posting it.

Here our first agnostic respondent does respond very well, furthermore. By deftly sidestepping this superficial attempt at using a red herring to after all, divert attention away from the real point and focus of Atheism: noting the sins of Religion, after all.

The real subject for atheists is criticizing Religion of course. Which is full of sins. And no atheist should allow himself to be diverted from that task. Or told to shut up.

Could atheists be more polite? Religion actually, WAS subtly and politely criticized for thousands of years. By academics, and even theologians. But believers didn't hear it; ardent believers just don't do logical subtleties.

That is why some atheists today should often, say it strongly, and repeatedly.

To be sure, I prefer the calm and reasoned approach. But I know perfectly well that Reason just doesn't resonate with many believers. Many of them actually explicitly oppose "Reason" and the "mind" and "knowledge" in fact; in favor of blind faith.

How SHOULD we approach such persons? I prefer Reason greatly. But when people are deaf to Reason? I also see a role for simple, repeated, adamant confrontation.

Should atheists at times introspect, and consider their own sins? Probably. But let's not let that distract them from the main task.

That I take it, is the main point of our first respondent. And it is a very good point indeed.




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Agnostic here. xfundy Aug 2014 #1
What in the world does that have to do with the article? cbayer Aug 2014 #3
This article was posted by Rug; as part of his apparently endless series of posts attacking atheists Brettongarcia Aug 2014 #5
I think you just made the author's point for him. cbayer Aug 2014 #6
Really, posting an article about atheists, without comment, is attacking atheists? rug Aug 2014 #7
An article castigating atheists; see it in the context of countless similar attacks posted by Rug. Brettongarcia Aug 2014 #8
An article, wriiten by an atheist, criticizing Dawkins is criticizing atheists? rug Aug 2014 #9
No one of course, will want to read all 60,000 of Rug's posts. Which are overwhelmingly anti-atheist Brettongarcia Aug 2014 #16
The overwhelming number of my 60,000 posts are "anti-atheist"? rug Aug 2014 #19
And what about posts calling believers deluded or ill? are they attacking or insulting believers? hrmjustin Aug 2014 #10
Cuz Freud! Freud! okasha Aug 2014 #12
Academic articles, published by professionals in the field, cannot be taken to be simple insults Brettongarcia Aug 2014 #13
I can take whatever I want as an insult and some of those posts by members here were meant as hrmjustin Aug 2014 #14
So whatever you think and say is good? Brettongarcia Aug 2014 #17
I never said I was perfect but I don't go out of my way to insult atheists. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #18
So what do you think when you hear Rug call many atheists, "ASS"holes? Brettongarcia Aug 2014 #20
Who specifically did he call that? Every Atheist? hrmjustin Aug 2014 #21
Those who dared to confront religious folks Brettongarcia Aug 2014 #23
That is complete bull! hrmjustin Aug 2014 #26
Lol! rug Aug 2014 #15
While I believe that there are an increasing number of people who don't cbayer Aug 2014 #2
So when will religious folks do this? Brettongarcia Aug 2014 #4
That is a broad brush you paint with. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #11
The irony of the present OP title, is that usally it is religious folks are supposed to be humble; Brettongarcia Aug 2014 #22
Hey, I'm over here. rug Aug 2014 #24
I didn't know rug was here. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #27
Your assuming he does not want religious people to do the same. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #25
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