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cbayer

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43. I'm really not sure what it is you are talking about.

Fri Aug 29, 2014, 11:33 AM

Aug 2014

The comment that you responded to in the thread about the whining was made quite a while ago. I was responding to the article without any link to any other conversation. It seems that you are the one who made the link from one thread to the next.

What raises a datapoint to the level of validity for me? Well that depends. If it is true science, then I rely on statistical analyses that give concrete information on the probability that something is not just a random finding.

When it is more conjecture and based on some evidence but no hard data, the level of validity is higher to reach.

This seems to be personal for you and I am somewhat skeptical of your claim that you are asking in order to increase the productivity of the conversation. You have indicated on many occasions that it's really about winning the debate for you, not about increasing understanding.

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Stop fighting about who created the world.... [View all] eridani Aug 2014 OP

I have time for both. Silent3 Aug 2014 #1

That's a pretty simple, and skewed, view of it. rug Aug 2014 #2

Nevertheless it is an identifiable component of right wing 'Save the whales, collect the whole set' AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #5

There is also a strong and growing movement among evangelical groups that takes cbayer Aug 2014 #8

Weasel word alert. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #9

Weasel word? I'm thinking that I really don't want to talk to you this morning. cbayer Aug 2014 #10

Sigh. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #11

Ok, since you are well aware that most posts made on this board do cbayer Aug 2014 #16

The second link is the only one that apparently shows any numbers at all AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #19

I can't quantify it, but it is real. cbayer Aug 2014 #23

I'm ok with supporting it. I'm not ok with mischaracterizing it as anything but AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #25

Aha! You made an assertion that it is a minority! Is that a weasel word? cbayer Aug 2014 #26

I have plenty of data. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #28

While this is all fairly interesting and makes some good points, cbayer Aug 2014 #32

Ruh oh!!! cbayer Aug 2014 #27

PEW found a different story. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #29

My link supports my assertion. Full stop. cbayer Aug 2014 #30

No it doesn't. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #31

Your ass is strong? Must be all that running you do. cbayer Aug 2014 #33

Do you understand the difference between a movement and a datapoint on a poll, yes or no? AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #34

No, I don't understand that at all. cbayer Aug 2014 #35

*My definition* LAWL AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #36

What is LAWL? cbayer Aug 2014 #37

It's onomatopoeia for 'LOL'. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #38

Oh, that's almost as sophisticated as your jungle yell about your spleen. cbayer Aug 2014 #39

Do you not see the inherent comedy at your deadpan transition from this thread to that one? AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #40

As I told another member earlier, I have no problem with you getting a chuckle from me, cbayer Aug 2014 #41

Serious question. Do you compartmentalize thread information? AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #42

I'm really not sure what it is you are talking about. cbayer Aug 2014 #43

I certainly view the tea party and the various demographics of which it is assembled as 'the enemy'. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #44

I think you make an error when you conflate the tea party with evangelicals. cbayer Aug 2014 #45

Yes, but one can never pass up a chance to display umbrage... Silent3 Aug 2014 #17

Excuse me? cbayer Aug 2014 #18

I resent that implication! Silent3 Aug 2014 #20

Aww, you resent it? Then maybe you should stop doing it. cbayer Aug 2014 #21

Or I can just sit back and be amused as you take seriously that "I resent" comment... Silent3 Aug 2014 #22

You sure can. I don't mind you having a chuckle at my expense at all, cbayer Aug 2014 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author rock Aug 2014 #64

Well, somebody's god is doing a bang-up job bvf Aug 2014 #4

Well, I guess you are going to have to get yourself into that church and vote! cbayer Aug 2014 #7

It's true and I'm sorry someone felt the need to mock your position. trotsky Aug 2014 #12

I see the official mock squad had shown up. Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #14

It has now. rug Aug 2014 #46

Delusion Of The Highest Order - Where Is The Proof That God Exists cantbeserious Aug 2014 #51

Hello there and welcome to the Religion group. cbayer Aug 2014 #52

Per The Online Dictionary Cited Below cantbeserious Aug 2014 #53

I agree that it is irresponsible to pursue the cbayer Aug 2014 #54

I Do Not Conflate The Two - Protecting The Eco-Sphere Is More Important Than Belief In Deity cantbeserious Aug 2014 #55

I agree with you, but that wasn't my question cbayer Aug 2014 #56

I Have No Problem With Those That Want Justify Their Personal Mission With The Delusion Of Deity cantbeserious Aug 2014 #57

On that we certainly agree on principle. cbayer Aug 2014 #58

I Am Not Qualified For A Medical Diagnosis - I Can Only Evaluate Behavior Using Definitions cantbeserious Aug 2014 #59

Well, here we are going to disagree. cbayer Aug 2014 #60

We Will Have To Agree To Disagree - No Further Discussion Useful - You Have Your Path - I Mine cantbeserious Aug 2014 #61

that is even more tired an laughable than the santa argument Lordquinton Aug 2014 #69

There is zero evidence for intelligent life elsewhere cbayer Sep 2014 #77

Whose sockpuppet? Leontius Aug 2014 #65

Is That Ridicule Being Directed This Way cantbeserious Aug 2014 #66

The largest Christian church has a position quite the opposite... goldent Aug 2014 #67

we are aware the rcc did a big 180 about it recently Lordquinton Aug 2014 #71

You must be using the term "recently" in the sense of a 2000 year old church goldent Aug 2014 #76

Exactly how did the catholic church abuse the planet in god's name for centuries? cbayer Sep 2014 #78

Excellent question. okasha Sep 2014 #85

I wouldn't hang around just hoping that it might. cbayer Sep 2014 #86

Well, we just have to remember okasha Sep 2014 #87

Amen. Cleita Aug 2014 #3

I'm not sure who is fighting about who created the world, but cbayer Aug 2014 #6

Really, cbayer? trotsky Aug 2014 #13

Good message! It cannot be repeated too often. Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #15

Perhaps it means little to some because it is patently dishonest. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2014 #47

Patently dishonest? Really? Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #48

Yes, really. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2014 #50

I wasn't talking about atheists, just some posters who happen to be atheists. Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #63

This is an unfair assertion. Curmudgeoness Aug 2014 #68

I'm not sure what you think I'm asserting. Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #73

To be clear on what I think you are asserting... Curmudgeoness Aug 2014 #74

All I'm doing is differentiating between mainstream atheists and extremists. Starboard Tack Sep 2014 #79

which is why what you are doing has been characterized as patently dishonest. Warren Stupidity Sep 2014 #81

Not at all. There are no "bad atheists". in my opinion. Starboard Tack Sep 2014 #82

That I understood. And I still think you're wrong. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2014 #70

I have no issue, essentially, with what you are saying Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #72

I can't speak authoritatively to the motivations of others. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2014 #75

well there is a relationship as theistic beliefs that gods gave us this planet with Warren Stupidity Sep 2014 #80

That is definitely the case. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2014 #84

Patently dishonest? Really? Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #48

+ 1000 !!! orpupilofnature57 Aug 2014 #62

Stop fighting about who created the world.... AlbertCat Sep 2014 #83