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Bjorn Against

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114. Which atheist groups specifically have issues with sexual harrassment?

Fri Sep 19, 2014, 12:12 AM

Sep 2014

I am not denying sexual harrassment happens, I just want you to cite the specific cases so I can condemn those cases in which it does without using broad brush smears against atheists in general. I am more than willing to condemn sexism among atheists, but I am not going to limit my criticism of sexism to only atheists. You are the one that is embarrassing yourself by insisting that only atheists should be talked about.

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Richard Dawkins has lost it: ignorant sexism gives atheists a bad name [View all] rug Sep 2014 OP

You might want to spend some time thinking Goblinmonger Sep 2014 #1

You might want to spend some time thinking rug Sep 2014 #2

I don't care about criticism of Dawkins. He ain't my leader. Goblinmonger Sep 2014 #6

Ah, then your obsession must be with me. rug Sep 2014 #8

Because I respond to what you post in a public forum? Goblinmonger Sep 2014 #21

It's not that you respond, it's how you respond. rug Sep 2014 #26

Noting an alleged SLIGHT trend to sexism in Atheism, does seem hypocritical coming from a Catholic Brettongarcia Sep 2014 #43

"It's not that you respond, it's how you respond" cleanhippie Sep 2014 #47

Now my advice to you would be entirely different. rug Sep 2014 #48

You just keep up that self-help. cleanhippie Sep 2014 #66

I do. You should try it. The need is obvious. rug Sep 2014 #71

The need to respond to a person with 60,000 posts +, is obvious. Brettongarcia Sep 2014 #132

Your post isn't. rug Sep 2014 #133

Oh look the "I get the last word in" game.... AlbertCat Sep 2014 #136

That explains why you replied. rug Sep 2014 #137

See? I told you. AlbertCat Sep 2014 #139

It has zero effect on you because you're a man. okasha Sep 2014 #45

For someone who feels free to comment on reading comprehension Goblinmonger Sep 2014 #46

Is there a correlation between Dawkins atheism and his sexism? TexasProgresive Sep 2014 #3

None. rug Sep 2014 #4

One person does not show a correlation Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #9

Many more than one are discussed in the article. rug Sep 2014 #10

I did read the article, it was focused primarily on Dawkins Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #15

"endemic" is not limited to one person. rug Sep 2014 #16

The headline of the article you posted implies he gives all atheists a bad name Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #17

That's their headline and your inference. rug Sep 2014 #27

Just as the word endemic was their word and your inference Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #39

Endemic is a pretty universally understood word. rug Sep 2014 #49

The headline is just as easily understood Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #55

It's not a science journal. Nice diversion though. rug Sep 2014 #58

You said in another post in this very thread that you needed data to determine correlation Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #59

The OP is about sexism within atheist organizations. Why are you so relecuctant to discuss it? rug Sep 2014 #61

I have been trying to discuss it Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #64

No you haven't. rug Sep 2014 #74

Provide me data to discuss and I will discuss it Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #76

Oh bullshit. Tu quoque is evident in every post you've made in this thread. rug Sep 2014 #78

Just provide the data and we can discuss it Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #81

How much data do you need before you're prepared to discuss sexism? rug Sep 2014 #84

Well I certainly need something more than zero pieces of data Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #87

Ok, feel free to post whenever you are ready to actually discuss sexism. rug Sep 2014 #89

I am more than willing to discuss sexism, what I am not willing to do is focus entirely on atheists Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #91

Well that what this thread is about despite your efforts at derailment. rug Sep 2014 #92

What does Rug make of the higher percentage of males in science and engineering? Brettongarcia Sep 2014 #11

rug does not answer questions phrased in the third person. rug Sep 2014 #12

Note only about 1/3 of PhD's in sci. & engineering, academically employed, are female. Brettongarcia Sep 2014 #42

There seems to be quite a few members of my gender TexasProgresive Sep 2014 #18

I wonder how sexist views in the male atheist leadership correlate with LiberalAndProud Sep 2014 #19

Which do you think has a higher r score Goblinmonger Sep 2014 #22

I think there is a much larger problem with sexism within the RCC, but cbayer Sep 2014 #23

Need data. rug Sep 2014 #25

The data on RCC is too obvious to need formal citation. Priests: 1) Male 100%; 2) Female 0% Brettongarcia Sep 2014 #33

Oh, "too obvious". That's convincing. rug Sep 2014 #37

100% MALE priests doesn't say ANYTHING to you? How about "Beyond God the Father," by Mary Daly? Brettongarcia Sep 2014 #41

You're resorting to caps again, Mark. rug Sep 2014 #52

And you're ignoring the scholarly reference, as usual Brettongarcia Sep 2014 #119

I've seen more scholarly references on graffiti at the Union Square subway stop rug Sep 2014 #122

Guess you never even saw the dozen or so professional psychiatric journal articles I discussed? Brettongarcia Sep 2014 #129

I saw the links you put up. I also saw the graffiti. I compared them. rug Sep 2014 #134

Graffiti can be quite clever to be sure Brettongarcia Sep 2014 #135

So can you present data on the correlation between sexism and atheism? Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #40

By all means present it. rug Sep 2014 #51

100% of priests, cardinals, and popes throughout history have been males Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #56

And? Do you think that's prima facie evidence of sexism? rug Sep 2014 #57

Yes, making leadership open to only men is evidence of sexism Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #60

It's yet to elect a woman. rug Sep 2014 #62

So... tonedevil Sep 2014 #63

It still hasn't elected a woman. That's apparently the standard. rug Sep 2014 #72

But they would elect a women if the voters elected a woman Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #65

Ah, so the American electorate is now sexist. rug Sep 2014 #73

You are the one that brought up the electoral college, not me Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #75

You are the one that brought up 260+ male Popes over 2,000 years as a prima facie case of sexism. rug Sep 2014 #77

So atheists are fair game but The Catholic Church is off limits Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #79

Lol! How long have you been reading this forum? rug Sep 2014 #80

Long enough to know that you hold atheists to a much higher standard than you hold the RCC Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #82

Oh, yes, the DU Religion Group is nothing but atheist bashing and Papal adulation. rug Sep 2014 #83

I have said that I am willing to address it, I just want to see the data Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #85

No you don't. If you did, you would have a dozen posts ago. rug Sep 2014 #86

I can't discuss data that doesn't exist Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #88

Ah, sexism does not exist without data. rug Sep 2014 #90

Where did I say that? Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #93

You didn't. In fact, you won't even discuss it. rug Sep 2014 #94

I will discuss the issue of sexism in general terms without any new data Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #97

Then I think it's time I limit the discussion. rug Sep 2014 #98

Good idea, you clearly can't back up your claim of a correlation between sexism and atheism Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #99

That i can, but I cannot stay on a carousel with someone clearly evading the topic at hand. rug Sep 2014 #101

If the topic at hand is sexism then I have been discussing sexism Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #104

Bullshit. You have refused to discuss, simpering behind a demand for "data" on another subject. rug Sep 2014 #105

We can discuss sexism in general Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #106

See who wrote the article. rug Sep 2014 #107

Atheism is not an "organized movement" Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #108

Of course it's not. rug Sep 2014 #109

Just because there is an atheist web site that does not make atheism an organized movement Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #110

No, of course not. rug Sep 2014 #111

Oooh...there is more than one atheist group Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #112

Not only are there many, but there's sexual harassment in many ofthem. rug Sep 2014 #113

Which atheist groups specifically have issues with sexual harrassment? Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #114

The links are all in the article. rug Sep 2014 #115

It sounds like she did experience sexist behavior at an atheist convention Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #116

100% of American Presidents okasha Sep 2014 #68

You do understand edhopper Sep 2014 #69

Tsarist Russia okasha Sep 2014 #102

You are right edhopper Sep 2014 #118

Here's some more you can think about. okasha Sep 2014 #126

Yes you are right of course edhopper Sep 2014 #128

This message was self-deleted by its author okasha Sep 2014 #103

That's odd coming from the person who said this: Goblinmonger Sep 2014 #44

Oh, that's easy. I can read and understand words that start with "e". rug Sep 2014 #50

Yet, oddly, you don't consider it endemic when 100% of the leadership positions in the RCC Goblinmonger Sep 2014 #53

See post 26. rug Sep 2014 #54

As an atheist who doesn't attend lots of conferences, etc., I don't see the sexism Nay Sep 2014 #31

It wouldn't surprise me at all to see a lot of this coming from the Libertarian contingent. rug Sep 2014 #38

Good thing atheism has no phil89 Sep 2014 #5

Bur now it has need for a Code of Conduct at conferences. rug Sep 2014 #7

It may not have rules, tenets or commandments, but there is certainly dogma cbayer Sep 2014 #14

I would love to see him really get some enlightenment here, cbayer Sep 2014 #13

You know Dawkins has you on ignore, yes? Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2014 #20

Lol. Honestly, at times I think he has the whole world on ignore. cbayer Sep 2014 #24

Lol. I will give him this. He does not resort to such cowardly tactics. rug Sep 2014 #28

Pope Francis has lost it: ignorant sexism gives Christians a bad name Arugula Latte Sep 2014 #29

Really? rug Sep 2014 #30

Do you think there may be a problem with sexism within some of the atheist cbayer Sep 2014 #32

Point being, why does one person tarnish all atheists but one person doesn't tarnish all Christians? Arugula Latte Sep 2014 #34

Who tarnishes all atheists? cbayer Sep 2014 #35

used to be that if someone was tearing up Catholic Hosts, condemning fairy tales and Santa Claus MisterP Sep 2014 #36

Well edhopper Sep 2014 #67

Well rug Sep 2014 #70

Are you accusing him of edhopper Sep 2014 #95

Read it again. rug Sep 2014 #96

Okay edhopper Sep 2014 #100

Who drew that conclusion? cbayer Sep 2014 #117

Generally it has been held that males do better in Science, Math - or Formal Reason, in effect Brettongarcia Sep 2014 #120

Please stop. I am not going to discuss this with you. cbayer Sep 2014 #121

It's the main question at hand, in the OP that you've presented. Why are you avoiding it? Brettongarcia Sep 2014 #130

something is wrong with your definition of "critical thinking" carolinayellowdog Sep 2014 #123

+1 rug Sep 2014 #127

Still, it's hard to think of really great librarians. Though some did exist. Brettongarcia Sep 2014 #131

Males are not overwhelmingly dominant in 'science' LeftishBrit Sep 2014 #138

Atheism doesn't depend on Richard Dawkins and his attitudes and actions LeftishBrit Sep 2014 #124

Thanks for your perspective; maybe it's Americans in need of "spiritual authority" carolinayellowdog Sep 2014 #125