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cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 11:32 AM Sep 2014

Pray Tell: The Hocus Pocus of Happy Thoughts [View all]



Heads up: This may offend you because I’m hurting and I haven’t the composure for caution or the patience for sensitivity just now.

I’ve never understood prayer. Don’t know the point of it, how it’s accomplished, or what the word means exactly. I’m atheist, so it’s probably not important that I understand prayer; it’s rarely aimed at me or asked of me. And yet — it’s all around me.

--snip--

How does prayer differ from superstition — from crossing your fingers or spitting three times? Can we all agree it would be insulting if you told the mother of a child on life support, “I’ll knock on wood for you and your family”? “I’m so sorry. We’re all knocking on wood here.”

What’s the difference between wishing something and willing it? Between hoping and praying? What’s the difference, honestly — if not self-importance? And if prayer does nothing more than make us feel less useless, then isn’t it worse than pointless? Isn’t it narcissistic and inappropriate?

http://www.independent.com/news/2014/sep/24/pray-tell-hocus-pocus-happy-thoughts/


Please read the full article. These few paragraphs do not adequately represent this author's work. Powerful stuff.
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Starshine is an honest journalist. rug Sep 2014 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author upaloopa Sep 2014 #2
So in your reality phil89 Sep 2014 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author upaloopa Sep 2014 #4
Oh, it's been resolved. cleanhippie Sep 2014 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author upaloopa Sep 2014 #8
Reality is what is true for everyone. cleanhippie Sep 2014 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author upaloopa Sep 2014 #12
You are most certainly wasting our time. cleanhippie Sep 2014 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author upaloopa Sep 2014 #16
I'm already quite happy. cleanhippie Sep 2014 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author upaloopa Sep 2014 #18
Seems like you're not being honest with your interpretation of my point. cleanhippie Sep 2014 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author upaloopa Sep 2014 #21
So you wouldn't even if you could? cleanhippie Sep 2014 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author upaloopa Sep 2014 #27
Your words are there for all to see. cleanhippie Sep 2014 #29
Apparently. cleanhippie Sep 2014 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author upaloopa Sep 2014 #9
You've gotten me all wrong. cleanhippie Sep 2014 #13
About as amazing as how many live entirely by physics. rug Sep 2014 #10
I live entirely through physics. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #28
I don't view music as physics even though I have a rudimentary understanding of acoustic waves. rug Sep 2014 #31
Likewise. okasha Sep 2014 #36
Actually they do edhopper Sep 2014 #38
The laws of optics may apply to how one observes a painting, okasha Sep 2014 #39
Are you an artist? edhopper Sep 2014 #49
Yes. okasha Sep 2014 #50
And you didn't train? edhopper Sep 2014 #52
Yes, and yes. okasha Sep 2014 #53
Got it. edhopper Sep 2014 #54
We might not be all the same, but, mr blur Sep 2014 #7
Prayer means different things to different people. TygrBright Sep 2014 #15
If you don't believe in abortion, don't have one. okasha Sep 2014 #20
WHOOOSH! cleanhippie Sep 2014 #22
My post was my point. okasha Sep 2014 #23
That you don't care what others have to say is obvious. cleanhippie Sep 2014 #24
"You" does no equal "others." okasha Sep 2014 #34
Yet here you are, continuing to respond, concerned about what words I use. cleanhippie Sep 2014 #43
Not you words. okasha Sep 2014 #44
Still here, still caring. cleanhippie Sep 2014 #51
If you believe abortion is genocide edhopper Sep 2014 #30
Forced abortion for anyone is a violation okasha Sep 2014 #33
Point edhopper Sep 2014 #35
that analogy really doesn't work. Warren Stupidity Sep 2014 #32
"Behavior that would be cute in a four-year-old okasha Sep 2014 #37
I'm sure that is very insulting somehow, as dialog and discourse it is not working. Warren Stupidity Sep 2014 #42
Warren, do you really believe this? Starboard Tack Sep 2014 #40
um yeah. Warren Stupidity Sep 2014 #41
Then you have a very bizarre belief system Starboard Tack Sep 2014 #56
Nice article. trotsky Sep 2014 #26
Prayer makes more sense in the context of pantheism. Arugula Latte Sep 2014 #45
LOL, that reminded me of the scene from Monty Python's Meaning of Life. trotsky Sep 2014 #46
Ha ha! I remember that. Arugula Latte Sep 2014 #47
Reminds me of Goblinmonger Sep 2014 #48
That was an amazingly honest piece of writing. DeadLetterOffice Sep 2014 #55
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