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gcomeau

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19. I said "etc" for a reason.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 10:31 PM
Oct 2014

And you don't seem to be getting me. I already told you point blank there is ZERO reason to think the IRS doesn't know this. What the heck do you think reporting them would be testing?


The bottom line is you seem to think the IRS just checks these items off and if you meet them all you're a church and if you don;t you're not. but even the IRS's own publications set the grounds for all the fudging they can do on which criteria get applied. To quote their own guide directly:



"The IRS generally uses a combination of these characteristics, together with other facts and circumstances, to determine whether an organization is considered a church for federal tax purposes"



Or, in other words, they'll apply these characteristics in any combination they feel like based on however they're deciding to evaluate things based on the situation and who it is doing the applying (a.k.a 'other facts and circumstances').


Or... as I've said already, "they know a real religion when they see one".

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Hmm... well since all churches are "invented" when do they move on to the others? gcomeau Oct 2014 #1
What do you mean all churches are invented? cbayer Oct 2014 #2
It seems like a clear enough statement. gcomeau Oct 2014 #3
Forget it. I regret responding to you. cbayer Oct 2014 #4
What exactly is your problem now? gcomeau Oct 2014 #5
That's a pretty typical response when she gets her nonsense destroyed like that. cleanhippie Oct 2014 #6
My problem is exactly this. I don't like engaging with you. cbayer Oct 2014 #7
You are correct, it is a pattern. trotsky Oct 2014 #8
It's a pattern, alright. A pattern you have with most everyone that disagrees with you. cleanhippie Oct 2014 #24
When she gets the impression that he doesn't want to discuss religion Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2014 #28
She probably regretted getting downwind of all that bullshit. okasha Oct 2014 #9
You seem very confident in your knowledge about the IRS and rules regarding religious groups. trotsky Oct 2014 #10
I provided a specific real world example of those criteria being ignored. gcomeau Oct 2014 #12
You say the criteria were ignored. okasha Oct 2014 #13
No, Young Life was not "caught". gcomeau Oct 2014 #14
What criterion did they not fulfill? okasha Oct 2014 #15
Already said that, but... gcomeau Oct 2014 #16
"An established place of worship" okasha Oct 2014 #17
I said "etc" for a reason. gcomeau Oct 2014 #19
I'm getting you fine, thanks. okasha Oct 2014 #20
Uh-huh gcomeau Oct 2014 #21
See previous post. okasha Oct 2014 #22
FFS gcomeau Oct 2014 #23
Two things. okasha Oct 2014 #25
Good grief... gcomeau Oct 2014 #26
Well, no. okasha Oct 2014 #27
I agree with you absolutely okasha Oct 2014 #18
Given the long history of special treatment goldent Oct 2014 #11
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