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Atheism’s shocking woman problem: What’s behind the misogyny of Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris? [View all]
http://www.salon.com/2014/10/03/new_atheisms_troubling_misogyny_the_pompous_sexism_of_richard_dawkins_and_sam_harris_partner/FRIDAY, OCT 3, 2014 07:58 AM EDT
As a movement, New Atheism seems like it would be so compatible with feminism and yet that hasn't been the case
AMANDA MARCOTTE, ALTERNET

Richard Dawkins (Credit: AP/Manish Swarup)
This article originally appeared on AlterNet.
At first blush, it would seem that an atheist movement would be exactly the sort of thing that would attract many women. After all, much of the oppression of womenfrom forced veiling to restricting abortion rightsis a direct result of religion. Unsurprisingly, then, feminism has a long tradition of outspoken atheists and religious skeptics within its ranks.Suffragist Elizabeth Cady Stanton preferred rational ideas based on scientific facts to religious superstition. Major feminist philosopher Simone de Beauvoir argued that belief in God exists in part to repress any impulse toward revolt in the downtrodden female. Modern feminist writer Katha Pollitt received the Emperor Has No Clothes award from the Freedom From Religion Foundation in 2001, where she said that religion is dangerous because it connects with very terrible social energies that have lain in civilization for a very long time.
But despite the natural and cozy fit of atheism and feminism, the much-ballyhooed New Atheism that was supposed to be a more aggressive, political form of atheism has instead been surprisingly male-dominated. The reason has, in recent years, become quite apparent: Many of the most prominent leaders of the New Atheism are quick to express deeply sexist ideas. Despite their supposed love of science and rationality, many of them are nearly as quick as their religious counterparts to abandon reason in order to justify regressive views about women.
Sam Harris, a prominent atheist author who has previously been criticized for his knee-jerk Islamophobic tendencies, recently came under fire when he added women to the category of people he makes thoughtless generalizations about. Washington Post religion reporter Michelle Boorstein interviewed Harris, and during the interview she asked him why most atheists are male. Theres something about that critical posture that is to some degree instrinsically male and more attractive to guys than to women. He added, The atheist variable just has this it doesnt obviously have this nurturing, coherence-building extra estrogen vibe that you would want by default if you wanted to attract as many women as men.
There was an immediate uproar among female atheists, and understandably so, as Harris didnt even consider that it could be atheism that has a problem, instead immediately assuming that the problem is women themselves. His reaction to the criticism, which was immediate and probably a bit overwhelming was not, however, a demonstration of the tough critical posture he characterized as instrinsically male. Harris replied to his criticswith a hyper-defensive and tediously long blog post titled, Im Not The Sexist Pig Youre Looking For. His strategy for disproving accusations of sexism was to engage in more sexist declarations, in the time-honored bigot strategy of saying its not bigotry if its true.
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Atheism’s shocking woman problem: What’s behind the misogyny of Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris? [View all]
cbayer
Oct 2014
OP
Your position is just fine and i hope that you will embrace those that see it differently.
cbayer
Oct 2014
#50
"We don't agree about there being leadership in organized atheism. There clearly is..."
cleanhippie
Oct 2014
#82
As such, it does. That doesn't mean that individual atheists might not have their 'gurus'...
LeftishBrit
Oct 2014
#64
If you are a male who values science, but found proportionately few women in that field - then what?
Brettongarcia
Oct 2014
#67
"Christianity's shocking child-rape problem" is a great example of the logical fallacy
Fortinbras Armstrong
Oct 2014
#117
Yes, calling the atheist movement anti-women based on some word scramble sentences
Fred Sanders
Oct 2014
#7
You know, you really should check your link with reality. It seems to be missing.
mr blur
Oct 2014
#29
Check my link with reality? Are you suggesting that your take on what is going on with women
cbayer
Oct 2014
#31
This is baloney. Atheism has no woman problem. There is no dogma concerning women.
BillZBubb
Oct 2014
#9
These are two of the most influential atheists around. Leadership is irrelevent.
kwassa
Oct 2014
#30
It is baloney, and it isn't patronizing to say someone is misguided when they are.
BillZBubb
Oct 2014
#37
It's very telling when one calls women who are complaining of misogyny "misguided".
cbayer
Oct 2014
#40
as others have tediously pointed out, atheism, the lack of belief in gods,
Warren Stupidity
Oct 2014
#46
Exactly. Yet a lot (not all, certainly, but a fair number) of self-described atheists....
YoungDemCA
Oct 2014
#18
I've been looking on the web for the ratio of male atheists to female atheist but have found no..
BlueJazz
Oct 2014
#53
The most reliable and believable demographics show that males constitute about two thirds
cbayer
Oct 2014
#54
The thought did cross my mind was perhaps the ratio you quoted might be a lot closer ...
BlueJazz
Oct 2014
#56
Good points. Your words ring true. I DO know that when I go to my other country (Australia)
BlueJazz
Oct 2014
#59
Yes, I was absolutely correct in my assumption. Except everything was Ass-Backwards.
BlueJazz
Oct 2014
#85
Yes, I will allow that RD's personal sensibilities are somewhat provincial, however...
immoderate
Oct 2014
#63
Typically males do better at science and math; at school and in the professions
Brettongarcia
Oct 2014
#75
"For math, science, boys lead on achievement tests while girls do better on classroom grades"
Brettongarcia
Oct 2014
#87
Standard statistical surveys say there are far more males than females in science professions
Brettongarcia
Oct 2014
#90
In at least four of these articles by Rug, the aim was to hint that Atheism in general was sexist
Brettongarcia
Oct 2014
#94
Clearly these articles are attempting to generalize Dawkin's example; to condemn all atheists
Brettongarcia
Oct 2014
#101
When any given community criticizes itself, before others, that is considered higher criticism.
Brettongarcia
Oct 2014
#126
That is good only if, for YOU the re-poster and most of your readers, it is also self-criticism.
Brettongarcia
Oct 2014
#128
That's one reason I enjoyed working in Public Health. In general their was more gender equality, imo
pinto
Oct 2014
#97
Sadistic bullies tend to rise to dominance in loosely-organized "movements"
carolinayellowdog
Oct 2014
#103