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Act_of_Reparation

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29. Unfortunately, eloquence does not a compelling argument make.

Mon Oct 6, 2014, 03:36 PM

Oct 2014

If you're going to sit there and claim that none of the social ills that have plagued this country since its inception -- sexism, racism, classism, imperialism and the like -- are in no way rooted in religious belief, despite the overabundance of religious language employed by those defending the status quo, you're going to have to do more than simple gainsaying, my friend.

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Karen Armstrong's attempt to excuse religion gets trashed by guardian readers. [View all] Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 OP

Repressive regimes, whether religious or secular, okasha Oct 2014 #1

At this point in time, to assert that religion is not playing a role is ridiculous. Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #3

Though I disagree with him, C Iliffe of Leeds had a better refutation. rug Oct 2014 #4

Here's the actual article. rug Oct 2014 #2

C, C Iliffe of Leeds okasha Oct 2014 #5

And a fine bit of doggerel that is. rug Oct 2014 #6

Weak sauce. kwassa Oct 2014 #7

And yet most of what social reform was fighting against was driven by religious group as well. trotsky Oct 2014 #8

No. kwassa Oct 2014 #9

That's a really powerful argument. cleanhippie Oct 2014 #11

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt. n/t trotsky Oct 2014 #12

It is eloquent in it's simplicity. kwassa Oct 2014 #17

*its n/t trotsky Oct 2014 #18

Unfortunately, eloquence does not a compelling argument make. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2014 #29

People seem to forget that's what give rise to the Southern Baptist Convention Rob H. Oct 2014 #10

Hey get with the program. trotsky Oct 2014 #13

same old trotsky, attempting to put words in my mouth I never said ... kwassa Oct 2014 #19

Then why don't you clarify, kwassa? trotsky Oct 2014 #21

I've never smeared you. That's a fact. kwassa Oct 2014 #24

Then clarify. trotsky Oct 2014 #25

Come on now folks--discuss ideas, not people...!!! MADem Oct 2014 #26

I have been trying, please feel free to give the same advice to kwassa. trotsky Oct 2014 #28

Well, that was the "folks" bit--it wasn't aimed at you alone. MADem Oct 2014 #41

He should have been a dentist. rug Oct 2014 #36

Do you think these Southern institutions okasha Oct 2014 #14

Marriage equality is an economic gain... trotsky Oct 2014 #15

Which came first, the religion or the culture in which it exists? kwassa Oct 2014 #22

An utterly pointless question Act_of_Reparation Oct 2014 #44

Marx would disagree. rug Oct 2014 #46

Point Cartoonist Oct 2014 #30

The Bible has been used to justify slavery, but slavery long pre-dated the Bible. kwassa Oct 2014 #31

Yeah, but the Baptist Church was founded on that particular cherry. Cartoonist Oct 2014 #33

The Baptist Church was founded in Amsterdam in 1609. rug Oct 2014 #37

Yeah but ripping into Stoics just dosen't have that cool PC vibe Leontius Oct 2014 #40

I read today that 1/3 of the Roman Empire population were slaves. kwassa Oct 2014 #42

Your OP title is really incorrect; there are all kinds of opinions from these readers. kwassa Oct 2014 #16

LMAO trotsky Oct 2014 #20

I see you didn't read all the comments either. Or the article. kwassa Oct 2014 #23

Do you think religion plays any role at all in religious violence, kwassa? trotsky Oct 2014 #27

Did you read the comments or article, trotsky? Do so, and we will have a discussion. kwassa Oct 2014 #32

I asked you a very simple question. trotsky Oct 2014 #34

No. kwassa Oct 2014 #35

I don't blame you. rug Oct 2014 #38

The best response to baiting is to refuse to participate. okasha Oct 2014 #39

I was actually just asking a question, okasha. trotsky Oct 2014 #43

No you weren't. rug Oct 2014 #45