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Goblinmonger

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101. Can you see how this is a problem with your interpretation of things.

Tue Oct 14, 2014, 11:08 AM

Oct 2014

And how that might be the case for a lot of the atheists you have a problem with?

trotsky posted the word "Dupe" and a link to the other thread. That's it. Nothing more. And you classify that as "chastising the thread starter." Are you serious? You are blowing that out of proportion. Just take a step back and admit it.

As to whether this is actual change: the article in the OP makes it clear that it isn't. It's the same old. No policy has changed. None. And you still have lead cardinals coming out saying gay marriage is horrible and will never be recognized. Meet the new boss; same as the old boss. And in case you aren't a Who fan, the next line is "won't get fooled again."

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Vatican Proposes Dramatic Shift In Attitude Towards Gays, Same Sex Couples [View all] cbayer Oct 2014 OP

Dupe. trotsky Oct 2014 #1

Nothing can stop... Rod Beauvex Oct 2014 #3

You're on ignore so she won't see that. rug Oct 2014 #5

amen amen i say unto you.. westerebus Oct 2014 #16

Ignorance is such bliss! Starboard Tack Oct 2014 #106

This isn't LBN so that doesn't matter. MADem Oct 2014 #85

It matters so as not to clutter the group. trotsky Oct 2014 #87

There's no prohibition to prevent it, so your concerns can be resolved by using the HIDE THREAD MADem Oct 2014 #88

Oh FFS. trotsky Oct 2014 #89

You're the one who "made it personal" when you started chastising the thread starter MADem Oct 2014 #90

"Chastising"? trotsky Oct 2014 #92

Did you know the thread starter had you on IGNORE? nt MADem Oct 2014 #93

How am I supposed to know? trotsky Oct 2014 #104

I rather thought she told you in one of your last exchanges. You know it now, don't you? nt MADem Oct 2014 #110

When I place someone on ignore, I inform them clearly. trotsky Oct 2014 #113

Well, good for you! MADem Oct 2014 #130

Can you see how this is a problem with your interpretation of things. Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #101

It was a PSA announcement about "clutter". We all know that. Starboard Tack Oct 2014 #108

I have no idea what the copy and paste you made is, but Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #120

The copy and paste is 1 year of trotsky chastising cbayer Starboard Tack Oct 2014 #151

Sounds like a Hitchcock movie. rug Oct 2014 #123

Really! nt MADem Oct 2014 #131

Holy shit, I thought you were obsessed with me. Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #167

I think you meant to reply to trotsky. Starboard Tack Oct 2014 #172

No I'm pretty sure anyone who posted a list like that needs to take a timeout Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #175

You're right, it's time for a swim. Starboard Tack Oct 2014 #177

When a person posts to someone that they know can't "see" them, MADem Oct 2014 #109

As I indicated, I have no way of "knowing" I'm being ignored. trotsky Oct 2014 #116

I'm not making anything a "condemnation" of you, so put the victim label away. MADem Oct 2014 #125

Thanks for making clear what standards of behavior you are OK with. trotsky Oct 2014 #133

My "standards of behavior" with regard to you are based entirely on your conduct. MADem Oct 2014 #135

Look, I'm not going to be smeared by you. trotsky Oct 2014 #136

You're doing a fine job all by yourself. rug Oct 2014 #141

Of course you aren't, because I'm not "smearing" you. MADem Oct 2014 #142

And I have what I've observed. trotsky Oct 2014 #144

I think YOU need to attend to that beam in your own eye, wrt "hypocritical, judgmental and MADem Oct 2014 #146

You did see that rug replied to trotsky, right? Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #163

I am not going to fight trotsky's battles for him. MADem Oct 2014 #165

But you will fight cbayer's battles? Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #168

ooops. I think you just ones the internetz. Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #169

I've observed a pattern and commented upon it. MADem Oct 2014 #171

Typing "Dupe" isn't snark. Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #122

It is if you know the person can't see you. MADem Oct 2014 #128

In this particular case "ignored" has a Knight of the Ark Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #174

If I don't have to concern myself, you needn't have troubled yourself mentioning it. MADem Oct 2014 #178

That actually doesn't make sense, but whatever. Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #180

"Clutter the group"? You must be kidding. Starboard Tack Oct 2014 #107

Do they really think softer anti gay rhetoric is the point? Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #2

It is a giant step! A dramatic change! Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #7

Do you see anything positive in this? cbayer Oct 2014 #10

Did you read the article you posted? Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #13

What it is, is pathetically inadequate. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #82

This same sort of 'change of tone' was Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #127

Well, one could see it that way or one could see it as cbayer Oct 2014 #138

Well as long as you "see a glimmer of light" then that's all that matters. beam me up scottie Oct 2014 #183

Thank you. theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #185

Careful, you're not showing the proper amount of gratitude towards the Pope. beam me up scottie Oct 2014 #186

Here's the text I added in the other thread. rug Oct 2014 #4

Thanks for that. I wasn't aware that there was another thread. cbayer Oct 2014 #9

Yeah. Warren's thread wasn't going where he wanted it to so they've gravitated here. rug Oct 2014 #36

Whatever. I knew this would get some negative response, but I think it is cbayer Oct 2014 #38

It is, and considered good news by many. rug Oct 2014 #43

You mean the Catholic Church doesn't like it one bit? AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #83

No, I mean precisesly what I typed. rug Oct 2014 #126

No, just trying to picture the resulting venn diagram. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #184

Didn't Confucius say that a journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step? MADem Oct 2014 #86

Agree and those that can't even acknowledge that this is a single step cbayer Oct 2014 #95

You might get a better quality of discussion over at MADem Oct 2014 #96

That group has just never gotten going. cbayer Oct 2014 #97

Not all discussions need to be fast-paced. MADem Oct 2014 #98

I look forward to proceeding with the book discussion group in interfaith. cbayer Oct 2014 #99

I see you have no comment on what makes this report outrageous. Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #6

Tell it to the Human Rights Campaign. rug Oct 2014 #8

So they want to create a status for gay people that is somewhat lower... greendog Oct 2014 #11

I'm not sure where you got this kind of ranking from the article. cbayer Oct 2014 #12

"no one has been burned at the stake for over 1000 years" Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #14

When I was a child I attended a Catholic Church named after Joan of Arc. greendog Oct 2014 #22

1000 years? greendog Oct 2014 #15

not even close. Burnings occurred quite frequently within that time frame. Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #17

No, but there are some pretty evil evangelical christians cbayer Oct 2014 #18

Yeah they were, just not "officially". Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #21

They just don't use a stake now edhopper Oct 2014 #19

That's different. Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #20

you mean edhopper Oct 2014 #23

I dunno, that is too complicated for me. Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #24

What is happening in Uganda is reprehensible, but cbayer Oct 2014 #25

Joan of Arc? Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #27

Joan of Arc was burned at the stake for being gay? cbayer Oct 2014 #28

um actually transvesticism was one of the charges. Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #33

Are you equating trasvestism with being gay? rug Oct 2014 #60

Well, that was part of it, yes. Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #45

No, I really didn't know that. There is much I don't know. cbayer Oct 2014 #53

Joan may very well have been gay, okasha Oct 2014 #47

That is what I thought about her as well. cbayer Oct 2014 #54

Her execution was political. okasha Oct 2014 #56

She was one of my heroes as a child. cbayer Oct 2014 #57

Mine too. okasha Oct 2014 #61

That's cool that you wear a medal. cbayer Oct 2014 #64

The Christopher sounds awesome. okasha Oct 2014 #67

This reminds me that I need to find the St. Francis book we are going to read. cbayer Oct 2014 #68

I need to order it, too. okasha Oct 2014 #70

I knew Petain was famous for that quote but didn't know that Joans imagery was used to Leontius Oct 2014 #187

My daughter chose Joan as a Confirmation name. I couldn't talk her out of it. rug Oct 2014 #62

I think my love of her has very little to do with cbayer Oct 2014 #63

There were film versions okasha Oct 2014 #73

I think it was Saint Joan that grabbed me. cbayer Oct 2014 #75

I have to agree with you as far as contemporary conflicts go. okasha Oct 2014 #66

It's never religion is it? edhopper Oct 2014 #58

In this case it was not about religion at all. okasha Oct 2014 #59

So the first trial was only political edhopper Oct 2014 #65

Stop putting words in my mouth. okasha Oct 2014 #69

So it was only the first trial edhopper Oct 2014 #71

Sorry to say this, okasha Oct 2014 #72

I have edhopper Oct 2014 #74

The constant attempts on this board okasha Oct 2014 #76

religious court condemns person to burn to death, nothing to do with religion. Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #79

So you still want to stick with this edhopper Oct 2014 #94

That was after the first ecclesiastical court condemned her for heresy and had her burnt. Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #78

So was the Spanish Inquistion just a conspiracy theory kdmorris Oct 2014 #29

That's right. I just can't do math. cbayer Oct 2014 #30

What a fantastic backfilling job there. Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #34

Hey, I'm not the one that said they had a long way to go kdmorris Oct 2014 #35

No, I did my research and they did burn people at the stake for being gay. cbayer Oct 2014 #37

No it didn't stop in the 12th century. It was going blazes in the 15th. Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #39

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA kdmorris Oct 2014 #42

HAHAHAHAHA? Really? cbayer Oct 2014 #44

I would REALLY appreciate it if you would stop talking about my children kdmorris Oct 2014 #46

Not a problem at all. cbayer Oct 2014 #55

Some posters here are desperate skepticscott Oct 2014 #77

I noticed that kdmorris Oct 2014 #84

"although I am not particularly thin skinned" Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #50

B�ing gay was never considered a heresy. okasha Oct 2014 #52

nobody said it was. Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #80

kdmorris post #35 okasha Oct 2014 #81

there was a well kn8wn Catholic in the 1930's and 40s who put many homosexuals to death Lordquinton Oct 2014 #49

Well, somebody can't read numbers. okasha Oct 2014 #51

I don't know if it's lower than where the RCC places women. That's pretty damn low. Arugula Latte Oct 2014 #26

Things are improving though! greendog Oct 2014 #32

Good idea. And maybe in a couple hundred more years women might get a little bit of power in the Arugula Latte Oct 2014 #48

Someone bring an ice pick and some good scotch....hell just froze over. loudsue Oct 2014 #31

I know. I will have a drink with you to that. cbayer Oct 2014 #41

I think it's kind of a big deal, too. MADem Oct 2014 #91

That's not what we are saying Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #103

An old saying seems quite appropriate here. trotsky Oct 2014 #105

Being naysayers doesn't make you the enemy Starboard Tack Oct 2014 #114

Well, if the cup were actually "half full", this might mean something skepticscott Oct 2014 #118

For some of us the cup is always half full. Starboard Tack Oct 2014 #137

I can well imagine that those who sail their yacht skepticscott Oct 2014 #153

Yeah! Counting one's blessings is a great attitude to have, I must admit. Starboard Tack Oct 2014 #170

You poor thing..I had no idea skepticscott Oct 2014 #173

I hear your straw sucking air, Starboard Tack Oct 2014 #176

I know in your clan you define the world by your own experience skepticscott Oct 2014 #179

I feel the same way Starboard Tack Oct 2014 #182

Well, you are sure expending a lot of effort insisting that nothing has changed, when it has. MADem Oct 2014 #134

Great news. Evolution of a position goldent Oct 2014 #40

Evolution of a position AlbertCat Oct 2014 #100

Priests that rape little boys can feel a little better about themselves? cbayer Oct 2014 #102

You are not conflating pedophilia with homosexuality are you? AlbertCat Oct 2014 #111

I doubt that it is a moot point among Catholics. Starboard Tack Oct 2014 #117

I doubt that it is a moot point among Catholics. AlbertCat Oct 2014 #119

The RCC is trying to stem the flow. Starboard Tack Oct 2014 #140

Wait. I believe you have said earlier that Catholics don't give a crap about the church. Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #121

First of all, I don't speak for Catholics, or any other group. Starboard Tack Oct 2014 #160

Your statement indicated that you thought this somehow gave pedophile priests more cover. cbayer Oct 2014 #139

Priests that rape little boys are going to jail. okasha Oct 2014 #129

Really edhopper Oct 2014 #132

I'll ask you the same thing as I did above. What does this article have to do cbayer Oct 2014 #147

I am answering a single reply edhopper Oct 2014 #150

"Or are you conflating pedophilia with homosexuality?" truebrit71 Oct 2014 #155

Next time try to answer the question. cbayer Oct 2014 #157

Progress always brings out critics and naysayers goldent Oct 2014 #181

Love Sinner and Hate the Sin HockeyMom Oct 2014 #112

I could see the RCC getting to a point of blessing relationships TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #124

Well, gay people can and do have children. MADem Oct 2014 #143

In other words edhopper Oct 2014 #115

It doesn't say that at all, but that would better suit your narrative. cbayer Oct 2014 #148

Thank you edhopper Oct 2014 #152

I'm not reading your mind. You have made your agenda crystal clear cbayer Oct 2014 #154

So you have a problem edhopper Oct 2014 #156

I have no problem at all with your beliefs. cbayer Oct 2014 #159

My belief that the RCC edhopper Oct 2014 #161

Not only do I not have a problem with them, I agree with some of them. cbayer Oct 2014 #164

As a gay man raised in a Catholic culture I welcomed the comments. Actually felt good about them. pinto Oct 2014 #145

Thanks for your POV on this, pinto. Honestly, it means more than everyone else's cbayer Oct 2014 #149

Thanks. Just puttering around the house and hearing the blurb repeated in the background was good. pinto Oct 2014 #158

They've been softening. ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #162

Agree. While they are some of the last to the party, it cbayer Oct 2014 #166

That's becuse said god was made in man's image. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #188

This is the quote: rug Oct 2014 #189

"No, I mean precisesly what I typed." AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #190

Major religions will have to embrace gay folks ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #191