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MADem

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135. My "standards of behavior" with regard to you are based entirely on your conduct.

Tue Oct 14, 2014, 01:37 PM

Oct 2014

Let me emphasize, YOUR conduct.

Like it or not, you have a history. I don't need to be insulting, I will simply stick to facts.

Anyone can do a simple search of your name and cbayer's and see for themselves what I've seen in the recent and not-so-recent past. You don't acquit yourself terribly well in those exchanges.

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Vatican Proposes Dramatic Shift In Attitude Towards Gays, Same Sex Couples [View all] cbayer Oct 2014 OP

Dupe. trotsky Oct 2014 #1

Nothing can stop... Rod Beauvex Oct 2014 #3

You're on ignore so she won't see that. rug Oct 2014 #5

amen amen i say unto you.. westerebus Oct 2014 #16

Ignorance is such bliss! Starboard Tack Oct 2014 #106

This isn't LBN so that doesn't matter. MADem Oct 2014 #85

It matters so as not to clutter the group. trotsky Oct 2014 #87

There's no prohibition to prevent it, so your concerns can be resolved by using the HIDE THREAD MADem Oct 2014 #88

Oh FFS. trotsky Oct 2014 #89

You're the one who "made it personal" when you started chastising the thread starter MADem Oct 2014 #90

"Chastising"? trotsky Oct 2014 #92

Did you know the thread starter had you on IGNORE? nt MADem Oct 2014 #93

How am I supposed to know? trotsky Oct 2014 #104

I rather thought she told you in one of your last exchanges. You know it now, don't you? nt MADem Oct 2014 #110

When I place someone on ignore, I inform them clearly. trotsky Oct 2014 #113

Well, good for you! MADem Oct 2014 #130

Can you see how this is a problem with your interpretation of things. Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #101

It was a PSA announcement about "clutter". We all know that. Starboard Tack Oct 2014 #108

I have no idea what the copy and paste you made is, but Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #120

The copy and paste is 1 year of trotsky chastising cbayer Starboard Tack Oct 2014 #151

Sounds like a Hitchcock movie. rug Oct 2014 #123

Really! nt MADem Oct 2014 #131

Holy shit, I thought you were obsessed with me. Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #167

I think you meant to reply to trotsky. Starboard Tack Oct 2014 #172

No I'm pretty sure anyone who posted a list like that needs to take a timeout Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #175

You're right, it's time for a swim. Starboard Tack Oct 2014 #177

When a person posts to someone that they know can't "see" them, MADem Oct 2014 #109

As I indicated, I have no way of "knowing" I'm being ignored. trotsky Oct 2014 #116

I'm not making anything a "condemnation" of you, so put the victim label away. MADem Oct 2014 #125

Thanks for making clear what standards of behavior you are OK with. trotsky Oct 2014 #133

My "standards of behavior" with regard to you are based entirely on your conduct. MADem Oct 2014 #135

Look, I'm not going to be smeared by you. trotsky Oct 2014 #136

You're doing a fine job all by yourself. rug Oct 2014 #141

Of course you aren't, because I'm not "smearing" you. MADem Oct 2014 #142

And I have what I've observed. trotsky Oct 2014 #144

I think YOU need to attend to that beam in your own eye, wrt "hypocritical, judgmental and MADem Oct 2014 #146

You did see that rug replied to trotsky, right? Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #163

I am not going to fight trotsky's battles for him. MADem Oct 2014 #165

But you will fight cbayer's battles? Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #168

ooops. I think you just ones the internetz. Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #169

I've observed a pattern and commented upon it. MADem Oct 2014 #171

Typing "Dupe" isn't snark. Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #122

It is if you know the person can't see you. MADem Oct 2014 #128

In this particular case "ignored" has a Knight of the Ark Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #174

If I don't have to concern myself, you needn't have troubled yourself mentioning it. MADem Oct 2014 #178

That actually doesn't make sense, but whatever. Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #180

"Clutter the group"? You must be kidding. Starboard Tack Oct 2014 #107

Do they really think softer anti gay rhetoric is the point? Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #2

It is a giant step! A dramatic change! Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #7

Do you see anything positive in this? cbayer Oct 2014 #10

Did you read the article you posted? Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #13

What it is, is pathetically inadequate. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #82

This same sort of 'change of tone' was Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #127

Well, one could see it that way or one could see it as cbayer Oct 2014 #138

Well as long as you "see a glimmer of light" then that's all that matters. beam me up scottie Oct 2014 #183

Thank you. theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #185

Careful, you're not showing the proper amount of gratitude towards the Pope. beam me up scottie Oct 2014 #186

Here's the text I added in the other thread. rug Oct 2014 #4

Thanks for that. I wasn't aware that there was another thread. cbayer Oct 2014 #9

Yeah. Warren's thread wasn't going where he wanted it to so they've gravitated here. rug Oct 2014 #36

Whatever. I knew this would get some negative response, but I think it is cbayer Oct 2014 #38

It is, and considered good news by many. rug Oct 2014 #43

You mean the Catholic Church doesn't like it one bit? AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #83

No, I mean precisesly what I typed. rug Oct 2014 #126

No, just trying to picture the resulting venn diagram. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #184

Didn't Confucius say that a journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step? MADem Oct 2014 #86

Agree and those that can't even acknowledge that this is a single step cbayer Oct 2014 #95

You might get a better quality of discussion over at MADem Oct 2014 #96

That group has just never gotten going. cbayer Oct 2014 #97

Not all discussions need to be fast-paced. MADem Oct 2014 #98

I look forward to proceeding with the book discussion group in interfaith. cbayer Oct 2014 #99

I see you have no comment on what makes this report outrageous. Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #6

Tell it to the Human Rights Campaign. rug Oct 2014 #8

So they want to create a status for gay people that is somewhat lower... greendog Oct 2014 #11

I'm not sure where you got this kind of ranking from the article. cbayer Oct 2014 #12

"no one has been burned at the stake for over 1000 years" Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #14

When I was a child I attended a Catholic Church named after Joan of Arc. greendog Oct 2014 #22

1000 years? greendog Oct 2014 #15

not even close. Burnings occurred quite frequently within that time frame. Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #17

No, but there are some pretty evil evangelical christians cbayer Oct 2014 #18

Yeah they were, just not "officially". Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #21

They just don't use a stake now edhopper Oct 2014 #19

That's different. Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #20

you mean edhopper Oct 2014 #23

I dunno, that is too complicated for me. Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #24

What is happening in Uganda is reprehensible, but cbayer Oct 2014 #25

Joan of Arc? Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #27

Joan of Arc was burned at the stake for being gay? cbayer Oct 2014 #28

um actually transvesticism was one of the charges. Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #33

Are you equating trasvestism with being gay? rug Oct 2014 #60

Well, that was part of it, yes. Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #45

No, I really didn't know that. There is much I don't know. cbayer Oct 2014 #53

Joan may very well have been gay, okasha Oct 2014 #47

That is what I thought about her as well. cbayer Oct 2014 #54

Her execution was political. okasha Oct 2014 #56

She was one of my heroes as a child. cbayer Oct 2014 #57

Mine too. okasha Oct 2014 #61

That's cool that you wear a medal. cbayer Oct 2014 #64

The Christopher sounds awesome. okasha Oct 2014 #67

This reminds me that I need to find the St. Francis book we are going to read. cbayer Oct 2014 #68

I need to order it, too. okasha Oct 2014 #70

I knew Petain was famous for that quote but didn't know that Joans imagery was used to Leontius Oct 2014 #187

My daughter chose Joan as a Confirmation name. I couldn't talk her out of it. rug Oct 2014 #62

I think my love of her has very little to do with cbayer Oct 2014 #63

There were film versions okasha Oct 2014 #73

I think it was Saint Joan that grabbed me. cbayer Oct 2014 #75

I have to agree with you as far as contemporary conflicts go. okasha Oct 2014 #66

It's never religion is it? edhopper Oct 2014 #58

In this case it was not about religion at all. okasha Oct 2014 #59

So the first trial was only political edhopper Oct 2014 #65

Stop putting words in my mouth. okasha Oct 2014 #69

So it was only the first trial edhopper Oct 2014 #71

Sorry to say this, okasha Oct 2014 #72

I have edhopper Oct 2014 #74

The constant attempts on this board okasha Oct 2014 #76

religious court condemns person to burn to death, nothing to do with religion. Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #79

So you still want to stick with this edhopper Oct 2014 #94

That was after the first ecclesiastical court condemned her for heresy and had her burnt. Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #78

So was the Spanish Inquistion just a conspiracy theory kdmorris Oct 2014 #29

That's right. I just can't do math. cbayer Oct 2014 #30

What a fantastic backfilling job there. Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #34

Hey, I'm not the one that said they had a long way to go kdmorris Oct 2014 #35

No, I did my research and they did burn people at the stake for being gay. cbayer Oct 2014 #37

No it didn't stop in the 12th century. It was going blazes in the 15th. Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #39

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA kdmorris Oct 2014 #42

HAHAHAHAHA? Really? cbayer Oct 2014 #44

I would REALLY appreciate it if you would stop talking about my children kdmorris Oct 2014 #46

Not a problem at all. cbayer Oct 2014 #55

Some posters here are desperate skepticscott Oct 2014 #77

I noticed that kdmorris Oct 2014 #84

"although I am not particularly thin skinned" Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #50

B�ing gay was never considered a heresy. okasha Oct 2014 #52

nobody said it was. Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #80

kdmorris post #35 okasha Oct 2014 #81

there was a well kn8wn Catholic in the 1930's and 40s who put many homosexuals to death Lordquinton Oct 2014 #49

Well, somebody can't read numbers. okasha Oct 2014 #51

I don't know if it's lower than where the RCC places women. That's pretty damn low. Arugula Latte Oct 2014 #26

Things are improving though! greendog Oct 2014 #32

Good idea. And maybe in a couple hundred more years women might get a little bit of power in the Arugula Latte Oct 2014 #48

Someone bring an ice pick and some good scotch....hell just froze over. loudsue Oct 2014 #31

I know. I will have a drink with you to that. cbayer Oct 2014 #41

I think it's kind of a big deal, too. MADem Oct 2014 #91

That's not what we are saying Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #103

An old saying seems quite appropriate here. trotsky Oct 2014 #105

Being naysayers doesn't make you the enemy Starboard Tack Oct 2014 #114

Well, if the cup were actually "half full", this might mean something skepticscott Oct 2014 #118

For some of us the cup is always half full. Starboard Tack Oct 2014 #137

I can well imagine that those who sail their yacht skepticscott Oct 2014 #153

Yeah! Counting one's blessings is a great attitude to have, I must admit. Starboard Tack Oct 2014 #170

You poor thing..I had no idea skepticscott Oct 2014 #173

I hear your straw sucking air, Starboard Tack Oct 2014 #176

I know in your clan you define the world by your own experience skepticscott Oct 2014 #179

I feel the same way Starboard Tack Oct 2014 #182

Well, you are sure expending a lot of effort insisting that nothing has changed, when it has. MADem Oct 2014 #134

Great news. Evolution of a position goldent Oct 2014 #40

Evolution of a position AlbertCat Oct 2014 #100

Priests that rape little boys can feel a little better about themselves? cbayer Oct 2014 #102

You are not conflating pedophilia with homosexuality are you? AlbertCat Oct 2014 #111

I doubt that it is a moot point among Catholics. Starboard Tack Oct 2014 #117

I doubt that it is a moot point among Catholics. AlbertCat Oct 2014 #119

The RCC is trying to stem the flow. Starboard Tack Oct 2014 #140

Wait. I believe you have said earlier that Catholics don't give a crap about the church. Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #121

First of all, I don't speak for Catholics, or any other group. Starboard Tack Oct 2014 #160

Your statement indicated that you thought this somehow gave pedophile priests more cover. cbayer Oct 2014 #139

Priests that rape little boys are going to jail. okasha Oct 2014 #129

Really edhopper Oct 2014 #132

I'll ask you the same thing as I did above. What does this article have to do cbayer Oct 2014 #147

I am answering a single reply edhopper Oct 2014 #150

"Or are you conflating pedophilia with homosexuality?" truebrit71 Oct 2014 #155

Next time try to answer the question. cbayer Oct 2014 #157

Progress always brings out critics and naysayers goldent Oct 2014 #181

Love Sinner and Hate the Sin HockeyMom Oct 2014 #112

I could see the RCC getting to a point of blessing relationships TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #124

Well, gay people can and do have children. MADem Oct 2014 #143

In other words edhopper Oct 2014 #115

It doesn't say that at all, but that would better suit your narrative. cbayer Oct 2014 #148

Thank you edhopper Oct 2014 #152

I'm not reading your mind. You have made your agenda crystal clear cbayer Oct 2014 #154

So you have a problem edhopper Oct 2014 #156

I have no problem at all with your beliefs. cbayer Oct 2014 #159

My belief that the RCC edhopper Oct 2014 #161

Not only do I not have a problem with them, I agree with some of them. cbayer Oct 2014 #164

As a gay man raised in a Catholic culture I welcomed the comments. Actually felt good about them. pinto Oct 2014 #145

Thanks for your POV on this, pinto. Honestly, it means more than everyone else's cbayer Oct 2014 #149

Thanks. Just puttering around the house and hearing the blurb repeated in the background was good. pinto Oct 2014 #158

They've been softening. ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #162

Agree. While they are some of the last to the party, it cbayer Oct 2014 #166

That's becuse said god was made in man's image. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #188

This is the quote: rug Oct 2014 #189

"No, I mean precisesly what I typed." AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #190

Major religions will have to embrace gay folks ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #191