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1. The Swami has new clothes!

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 06:05 AM

Mar 2012

Science and spirituality can ignore each other (best case) or be at cross purposes, but they can't co-exist. The scientist will always want to figure out what's really going on.

That evolution should take place on a quantum level is in keeping with evolution, which makes no judgements and favors the fittest. But I think it is all bio-chemistry and there are going to be interactions on a "quantum" level.

Explaining consciousness is the biggy, but some hypothetical quantum spirit does not clarify it.

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Quantum soul [View all] tama Mar 2012 OP

The Swami has new clothes! immoderate Mar 2012 #1

Well tama Mar 2012 #2

So I find this interesting in your OP and in this post Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #3

No, tama Mar 2012 #7

Certainly science and spirituality can co-exist, and do so beautifully cbayer Mar 2012 #9

Spirits do not submit themselves to scientific study. immoderate Mar 2012 #13

Wow, it must be amazing to know so much of everything that is known. cbayer Mar 2012 #15

Merely an illusion I create by sticking to the obvious. immoderate Mar 2012 #25

Spirituality is a Rohrschach word skepticscott Mar 2012 #4

I think everyone should remember this post whenever you tout science and the evidence it Leontius Mar 2012 #5

Not only is this post not directly relevant to that skepticscott Mar 2012 #6

Answers tama Mar 2012 #8

A quantum computer does not continue to compute after the physical system is destroyed. FarCenter Mar 2012 #10

Quantum computers tama Mar 2012 #23

That would be David Deutsche FarCenter Mar 2012 #24

Some info on Stuart Hameroff LongTomH Mar 2012 #11

Good stuff, thanks for the links. bananas Mar 2012 #17

"I am not offering or suggesting any proof, just a plausibility argument." Silent3 Mar 2012 #12

I've been taught tama Mar 2012 #14

While nothing is ever 100% positively proved... Silent3 Mar 2012 #16

Yeah tama Mar 2012 #18

Suppose an average of 5.7 angels can dance on the head of a pin... Silent3 Mar 2012 #19

So in other words tama Mar 2012 #20

Show me results Silent3 Mar 2012 #21

What is "unfair" about your prejudice tama Mar 2012 #22

The practical results show that the intellectual part... Silent3 Mar 2012 #26

"Science" is abstract noun tama Mar 2012 #29

What a silly diversion Silent3 Mar 2012 #30

Well tama Mar 2012 #31

All you're proving... Silent3 Mar 2012 #32

I'd like to suggest that you may have posted this in the wrong group laconicsax Mar 2012 #27

I'd like to suggest tama Mar 2012 #28

Confessed bias? LOL, that's rich. laconicsax Mar 2012 #35

I have no problems with atheists tama Mar 2012 #38

That's a wholly reasonable position. laconicsax Mar 2012 #41

E.g. tama Mar 2012 #43

Someone else's thread being locked as off-topic is censoring you? laconicsax Mar 2012 #51

I think it's fine here. cbayer Mar 2012 #33

I was only suggesting that the OP may get more of the discussion he wants elsewhere. laconicsax Mar 2012 #36

Quantum consciousness... Joseph8th Mar 2012 #34

Perhaps tama Mar 2012 #37

Nope... not referring to that... Joseph8th Mar 2012 #39

So tama Mar 2012 #40

Theoretical examination of quantum coherence in a photosynthetic system at physiological temperature FarCenter Mar 2012 #42

Yup tama Mar 2012 #44

Uh. oh. Got us a ... Joseph8th Mar 2012 #45

I'm sorry tama Mar 2012 #46

Anton Zeilinger would qualify as a top scientist. Davies not so much. FarCenter Mar 2012 #50

I'll have to read more, but at first glance it is not persuasive. FarCenter Mar 2012 #49

No... anomalies don't falsify... Joseph8th Mar 2012 #53

Well that's interesting. westerebus Mar 2012 #47

Sensing and consciousness tama Mar 2012 #48

Communication is 80% non verbal, so I understand. westerebus Mar 2012 #52