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In reply to the discussion: Seeing Is Unbelieving [View all]muriel_volestrangler
(106,590 posts)26. Rosenberg does claim the label 'scientism'
My conception of scientism is almost the same as that of those who use it as a term of abuse. They use the term to name the exaggerated and unwarranted confidence that science and its methods can answer all meaningful questions. I agree with that definition except for the exaggerated and unwarranted part.
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You are strongly committed to the view that the methods of science are the only reliable way to secure knowledge of anything? What would you say to those who would suggest that the methods of science can give us no knowledge about mathematics and what it is like to see red?
What I say in response to such sophisticated philosophical challenges is first, like all the other metaphysical and epistemological alternatives, scientism does not yet have a satisfactory account of mathematics or our understanding of it; second, the so-called hard problem of consciousnesswhat its like to have a qualitative experienceis a sign post along the research program of neuroscience. It will eventually have to dissolve this problem, just as physics eventually had to dissolve Zenos paradox of motion. Meanwhile, if I have to weigh the achievements of science in the balance against the problems of the philosophy of mathematics and the first person point of view, Ill choose science. 400 years of ever-increasing depth and breadth in explanation and prediction carries a lot more weight with me than a handful of philosophical conundrums and Platonism about mathematics.
http://blog.talkingphilosophy.com/?p=4209
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You are strongly committed to the view that the methods of science are the only reliable way to secure knowledge of anything? What would you say to those who would suggest that the methods of science can give us no knowledge about mathematics and what it is like to see red?
What I say in response to such sophisticated philosophical challenges is first, like all the other metaphysical and epistemological alternatives, scientism does not yet have a satisfactory account of mathematics or our understanding of it; second, the so-called hard problem of consciousnesswhat its like to have a qualitative experienceis a sign post along the research program of neuroscience. It will eventually have to dissolve this problem, just as physics eventually had to dissolve Zenos paradox of motion. Meanwhile, if I have to weigh the achievements of science in the balance against the problems of the philosophy of mathematics and the first person point of view, Ill choose science. 400 years of ever-increasing depth and breadth in explanation and prediction carries a lot more weight with me than a handful of philosophical conundrums and Platonism about mathematics.
http://blog.talkingphilosophy.com/?p=4209
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I wish that what you say atheists want was true, but it's not true for all atheists.
cbayer
Mar 2012
#4
Exactly, science helps answer questions about nature, nothing more or less..
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2012
#35