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cbayer

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13. I often use the blind men and the elephant analogy and think

Sun Oct 19, 2014, 05:35 PM

Oct 2014

it is particularly apt when it comes to beliefs in a deity.

I also agree that people have a strong tendency to create their gods to be just like them.

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Let It Be: Three Cheers for Apatheism [View all] cbayer Oct 2014 OP

+1 Good read. pinto Oct 2014 #1

Awesome! I sincerely think DU could use an Apatheism group. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #2

I think you may be on to something, and I am also serious. cbayer Oct 2014 #3

Would it be a safe haven? NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #5

I'm not even sure what a safe haven is, to be honest. cbayer Oct 2014 #8

I'd be happy to support your new forum. Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #54

That's an interesting idea. rug Oct 2014 #4

Thanks. How do you think it would differ from the Interfaith Group? NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #6

It shouldn't need to be but the Hosts determine if it's a safe haven or not. rug Oct 2014 #7

I think you're right. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #9

As a safe haven much insight from others edgineered Oct 2014 #16

I fully agree about the slippery slope of a "safe haven" becoming a club. cbayer Oct 2014 #17

If peer pressure means edgineered Oct 2014 #18

In theory safe havens do not stifle different viewpoints but they do enforce civility. rug Oct 2014 #28

And in practice, some do exactly the opposite. cbayer Oct 2014 #29

Indeed. rug Oct 2014 #33

I think you're right. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #49

Interesting idea that you might have a group with a zero tolerance policy for uncivil cbayer Oct 2014 #58

If the SOP requires that, say, callout (subtle or overt) are disallowed, then hosts can block. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #59

I think if this were going to work, it is worth cbayer Oct 2014 #60

I would wholeheartedly support such a group. trotsky Oct 2014 #36

I don't get it. What would you talk about in that group? Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #39

Apatheists don't care which belief system, if any, another person embraces. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #40

If you read my comments and this article you would know cbayer Oct 2014 #41

Let me just talk support for the group first. I'll do apatheism later. Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #43

Almost all of the support for that group came from a small group of the cbayer Oct 2014 #44

The people you have designated as the enemy supported the creation of the Interfaith group. trotsky Oct 2014 #45

Just because we thought it would fail did not make it fail. Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #46

No, it's different. cbayer Oct 2014 #47

We didn't "establish" the group Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #51

If you were to be really honest about this, you would know cbayer Oct 2014 #61

And were you to be honest about this, you would know trotsky Oct 2014 #62

I am being honest and, frankly, your repeated claims I'm not are tiresome. Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #63

Sorry to tire you, but we see this so differently that it cbayer Oct 2014 #64

That's not why we put up the rules. Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #65

So, explain to me how those particular rules helped keep the group "safe". cbayer Oct 2014 #66

We didn't want people violating our safe haven Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #70

Ok, that makes sense. cbayer Oct 2014 #73

Yeah. Other than that's not what i said. Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #75

I have issues with some individuals. cbayer Oct 2014 #77

No, cbayer, you don't get to rewrite history. trotsky Oct 2014 #79

He won't. But there will be a thread in A&A about it. rug Oct 2014 #67

I'm flattered you care so much to do a study. Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #71

Feel free to do your own. rug Oct 2014 #72

You're already blocked, soooooo Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #74

Oh, I know exactly why. And it's definitely not your revisionist version. rug Oct 2014 #76

We supported it because YOU skepticscott Oct 2014 #80

"It was basically established by a group that wanted to separate the "others"." Rob H. Oct 2014 #53

A&A is mocked, ridiculed, criticized, and attacked in this very group. trotsky Oct 2014 #55

That's interesting. There are A&A posts mocking and ridiculing this Group daily. rug Oct 2014 #68

Oh, please. Curmudgeoness Oct 2014 #52

What utter nonsense skepticscott Oct 2014 #78

comparing atheists to Nazis again? Lordquinton Oct 2014 #81

You think ghettos are all about nazis? cbayer Oct 2014 #82

The definition everyone seems to work with Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #48

I can agree with that. cbayer Oct 2014 #56

Non-practicing pantheist here... alterfurz Oct 2014 #10

I often use the blind men and the elephant analogy and think cbayer Oct 2014 #13

RE: "there's no way you can prove God doesn't exist: you just have to take it on faith. " Maedhros Oct 2014 #57

The key word is apathy Cartoonist Oct 2014 #11

There are two key words - apathy and theism. cbayer Oct 2014 #12

It's about apathy toward others' beliefs, not apathy toward belief systems. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #50

The author is an atheist still... MellowDem Oct 2014 #14

"Pretending you're something you're not to spare the feelings of a majority." beam me up scottie Oct 2014 #20

One can be religious and not believe in god or gods. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #21

None of your wiki dial a definitions proves atheism is anything other than non belief in gods. beam me up scottie Oct 2014 #22

I'm responding to your claim: "If you don't believe in gods you're an atheist." NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #23

Do tell. What, in your expert opinion, does non-belief in gods make one? beam me up scottie Oct 2014 #26

Agnostic is one choice. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #27

And there it is. beam me up scottie Oct 2014 #30

Be well. Best wishes. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #31

Hey guess what, NYC_SKP? trotsky Oct 2014 #37

The link you provided disputes your claim. Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #35

I think Bertram Russell said that he called himself an agnostic when addressing philosophers and rhett o rick Oct 2014 #15

I like your take on this and think you are representative of a significant number of others. cbayer Oct 2014 #42

Oops! I thought I was a secularist. By that definition, I'm not. Apatheist is what I am. freshwest Oct 2014 #19

You're a lover, you're loving and understanding and tolerant. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #24

And this is why I so admire you, freshwest. cbayer Oct 2014 #25

Apatheists exhibit the lowest levels of hypertension of all "ists". NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #32

And I love me some Honey Badgers. cbayer Oct 2014 #34

I did not know that 11 years was "relatively old." trotsky Oct 2014 #38

Well I guess if atheists have to exist then it's good that they don't care about religious privilege Fumesucker Oct 2014 #69

Relgious groups force me to care. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #83